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Post by tk826 on Aug 26, 2011 20:43:24 GMT -5
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Post by Steam McQueen on Aug 26, 2011 21:34:13 GMT -5
Wow ... 440 AND an 8-track!!! It would appear that this car was for sale before and somehow missed. I don't really know but I checked craigslist for Langley and look at this post from July 20th ... Weird. vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/rds/cto/2504592342.htmlI dunno, man. It's only one pic, and of course the price is high, but it sure looks nice to me. ---
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Post by Steam McQueen on Nov 12, 2011 16:20:17 GMT -5
I tried a couple of times over the last few months to contact this seller through e-mail but never got a response. We need someone in Langley, BC to give us the scoop on what's happening with it. - Ok, I just found it. White Rock and Langley are only 12 miles apart ... vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/rds/cto/2679688769.html
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Post by tk826 on Nov 22, 2011 0:40:02 GMT -5
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Post by tk826 on Nov 22, 2011 20:53:09 GMT -5
I had a feeling that it was the same car, but when looking at the original thread, I only looked at the titles of the posts (ie: Vancouver) and then the "White Rock" listing threw me off.
Whoops.
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Post by spanks79 on Nov 25, 2011 0:23:28 GMT -5
I would love to buy this and make a road trip out of it but I am not sure that is realistic. Also it kind of goes against my better judgement to go north for a rust free car. I have always gone south for cars. Do cars fair well in that part of the world?
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Post by Lord Vadus on Nov 25, 2011 11:08:16 GMT -5
On that note, since what I do for a hobby is buy and sell cars; I'd call it a business, but businesses are meant to make money, not keep me entertained...
Anyways, I've learned that there are some cars that you'll never find intact in the Northern climates; these would be the lower-end commuter vehicles with high mileage. Their interiors tend to be in better shape, but the frames, undersides, and bodies will rust away. Luxury cars, like Cadillacs and Lincolns, tend to fare better due to either older owners who don't drive often, especially in winter, or the fact that someone who would buy a more expensive car would also have a garage.
Let me give you all the insight my years of dabbling in used car sales has taught me:
With a big-block car, 80,000 is NOT LOW MILEAGE. Most of your big-block cars were parked when the gas crisis hit right around '75. It also means that all of the seals should be replaced from both wear and sitting. (There's no way to know if the car was driven heavily in the first 15 years and then parked or driven consistently, but it sounds like the former.)
74 is also the year of the switch to reclaimed steel; steel that's recycled and purchased from Japan for less than the cost of conventional steel from the years before. This is why you'll see so many cars from the '50s sitting out in fields and remaining relatively intact, yet a car from the '70s will rust to nothingness in a matter of years. If the car starts to rust, it can go quickly and eat the car. '74 doesn't have as much to worry about, as most of the panels were already stamped when the steel switch occurred, but it's the years after that are problematic.
Northern cars tend to have a better interior due to less sun exposure.
This car appears to be intact; the paint is an original color and touching-up the car would be fairly obvious. That said, the photo is also of the car when wet. Note how both the car and the ground shine.
Overall, the price is high and I'd be leery without seeing the car in person, but it does appear to be nice. I think that it also has a tan interior, so all it would immediately require is a nice coat of paint.
Hope this helps.
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Post by Lord Vadus on Nov 25, 2011 13:16:46 GMT -5
I'd say that those are some valuable trade secrets, but every car I've sold has been marketed as exactly what it is, no false pretenses or misdirection, so it won't hurt business.
As for '74 being the changeover year, I don't have an official source for that, but it comes from friends of mine who have been in the auto body business since then. They say that was the year it started and I believe them.
Typically, I don't comment too much on individual "For Sale" threads, but when I get the time to do so, I'm going to write up a nice thread of things to look out for when buying any car of this era so that people can be more informed and be the most satisfied with their purchase.
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Post by spanks79 on Nov 25, 2011 13:24:24 GMT -5
Thanks guys. I have exchanged a few emails with the seller and it sounds pretty nice. I agree that the price is a bit high. He claims it has sat for about 15 years under a carport. As long as the chassis is solid I can handle the rest. If I bought it, it would become black and white so paint work is no concern to me. I am going to call him this afternoon and get some more details and hopefully some pics.
I will give a full report.
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Post by Steam McQueen on Nov 25, 2011 18:39:54 GMT -5
I will give a full report. Cool. White Rock has a very moderate climate. This Dodge probably didn't see too much salt, possibly none ever. Well, that's if it lived in White Rock before being parked in the carport. - Hopefully you get some more pics, it looks like a beauty Monaco.
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Post by spanks79 on Nov 25, 2011 23:01:05 GMT -5
I talked to the seller today. Nice guy, very eager to talk avout the car. It sounds like a nice car. He is very familiar with film and movie cars, he has a few cars. He himself considered a blumo conversion but claims that he cannot bring himself to do it because the car is too nice. He claims it drives well and has had the fluids serviced along with the fuel system overhaul mentioned in the add. I got a few more pics and the tan interior is very nice, it looks like it has cloth seating surfaces that has print embossed into it. Definitely a up level interior, it is a broham. He says the speedo and odo show in miles, is that typical of a Canadian car? I figured it would be kilometers.
I don't know, it sounds pretty good.
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Post by Mr Mercer on Nov 25, 2011 23:44:01 GMT -5
Yes its in miles , our metric system did not hit some big 3 automakers till 76 . My 75 came with mph speedo with no kph as a secondary .
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Post by tk826 on Nov 26, 2011 14:09:07 GMT -5
If it were me... (and something you might want to consider) before I blindly handed over nearly 7000 dollars, I'd seriously consider the fact that the seller bought the car 5 months ago for 500 dollars.
In fact, I'd probably mention it directly to them, (in a non-confrontational way of course) probably in the form of a question, and negotiate a lower price.
But... that's just me.
I believe that for that kind of money, the only people that would be interested in the car are BB fans. Meaning... there is likely not a line of people pounding on their door, or a high amount of pressure on you to immediately pull the trigger. (It has after all been sitting for 5 months)
But of course, for a 500 investment, the seller might be willing to sit on it forever. Which is probably the reason for the statement of "not interested in offers".
(just a friendly observation/ opinion)
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Post by spanks79 on Nov 30, 2011 8:51:27 GMT -5
Thanks for the input. Really the only thing holding me back from presuing this car further is the logistics and associated cost with getting this car from Vancouver BC to Cincinnati OH.
In my opinion what he paid for it is irrevelant. The car is worth what someone is willing to pay for it. I agree that his asking price is high, as there is a limited market for this car in this price range. But I guess it just depends on how bad he wants or needs to sell it. Let's face it, if he was asking $3500 this car would have been bought up in seconds.
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Post by tk826 on Nov 30, 2011 9:03:04 GMT -5
Good point.
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