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Post by Sd.Kfz. 400 on Apr 6, 2012 12:42:07 GMT -5
Lookin' good, Zac - better gas mileage Can't argue with that, prices are steadily going up again around here (Well, all of North America I guess). We're over $1.30 a litre, soon to be $1.40 and they say we might hit $1.50 a litre here this summer. If my estimations are correct I believe we multiply that by 3.76 to get the price per gallon which puts $1.50 a litre at $5.64 per gallon. Craziness. Meanwhile in Finland, 1,70eur/litre which means 7,95 usd/gallon.
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Post by countrybunker on Apr 9, 2012 0:08:23 GMT -5
I couldnt imagine 7.95 a gallon. however it wouldnt supprise me if we got up to it soon. Currently it is between 3.88-3.99 a gallon around here. But I know its a lil more expensive up north. It take 5 bucks just to start the car/or truck to think of going anywhere lol. Took the car out for its first FL show. It got a lot of mixed reactions. Some people got it, and even the DJ dedicated a few BB's tunes to it. But also got a lot of "its an old cop car from IL" lol There were only 3 cbodys though. A 69 300 ragtop with a 440, a 69 fury ragtop with 440, and the blumo. Can see the fury behind the duster Good time though, worth the drive.. I really wanted to hit the orlando HOB on the way home.. But speaking of gas, the gas gauge wouldnt let me! lol -zac
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Post by countrybunker on Apr 14, 2012 13:45:55 GMT -5
well ive been thinking more and more about it. I havnt been getting any interest in the newport. I know what i said about the small blocks, but was thinking maybe swap the drivetrains between the cars. I think i have everything i need between the 2. Id have to change the manual valve body in the newports trans back to an automatic. Also the gears in the rear to 3.23's from 4.10's. Other then new motor mounts, and maybe a driveshaft would i need to do anythng else? What do you guys think?
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Post by countrybunker on Apr 14, 2012 16:00:47 GMT -5
Guess i should mention its a built 400 big block with a 727 trans. It has a full msd ignition. Wondering if i should stick with that ir go with the oarnge box already in the car.
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Post by spanks79 on Apr 14, 2012 18:12:34 GMT -5
What would you do with the Newport? Put the small block drivetrain in it?
I think it seems very do able. I seem to remember ther being a difference in small block vs big block sub frames. Something to do with the engine mounts, frame side. There is likely a work around in the engine mounts, engine side.
I am not that familiar with the small block, what transmission would it use if not the 727? The 904?
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Post by countrybunker on Apr 14, 2012 18:48:41 GMT -5
Yea I would put all the small block stuff in the newport, get it running and set it aside till im ready to work on it. Poissibly put the big block back in it down the road. It is a one of one car with original moto and trans with only 25,000 miles on it. So thats where its a lil hard.
The newport has a 400 with 915 440 heads, lunati cam and valve train, full msd ignition, edelbroke rpm intake, and holley 750 double pumper.
The trans is a big block 727 trans, with turbo action 2500 stall convertor, manual valve body, and hemi cluch pack.
I dont want the manual valve body in the blumo, so take it back to full automatic.
The rear is an 8 3/4 with a 4.10 suregrip. Id deff have to change the ring and pinion gear to something more streetable.
Id take the 360, small block 727, and 8 1/4 rear outa the blumo and put it in the newport.
Both cars have a 727, but the bellhousing is different between small block and big blocks. But wouldnt the tranny crossmember still work with the big block trans? I thought I heard on here that the motor mounts on the subframe were in the same location, just had to get the big block motor mounts to the engine.. Is this correct?
zac
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Post by sigmfsk on Apr 14, 2012 22:03:53 GMT -5
I thought I heard on here that the motor mounts on the subframe were in the same location, just had to get the big block motor mounts to the engine.. Is this correct? That was the report for a long while, but it it seems that status was not correct. There are important significant motor mounting differences between a small block and big block subframe. Pics and info here: www.bluesmobiles.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=details&action=display&thread=370
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Post by Lord Vadus on Apr 14, 2012 23:40:08 GMT -5
The year of the casting also has some bearing on the ease of a swap; the slight change of a post-'74 440 allows for more versatility in the swap.
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Post by sigmfsk on Apr 15, 2012 5:54:35 GMT -5
The year of the casting also has some bearing on the ease of a swap; the slight change of a post-'74 440 allows for more versatility in the swap. Fill us in! Please post some info or pics. Currently the differences we have are small block vs. big block, and the police subforum has the 76-77 cop reinforcements. I don't think we have anything for civilian differences through the years.
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Post by countrybunker on Apr 15, 2012 9:17:08 GMT -5
what about a post 74 400? would that be the same like the 440? i would imagine my 400 has a 72 casting, or early 73.
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Post by sigmfsk on Apr 15, 2012 10:38:01 GMT -5
what about a post 74 400? would that be the same like the 440? i would imagine my 400 has a 72 casting, or early 73. Ahhh, I think I may have been confused. I thought LV was saying that 75+ subframes were different than 74 subframes, but I think you interpreted his statement differently that he was referring to the actual block.
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Post by Lord Vadus on Apr 15, 2012 18:57:44 GMT -5
The post-74 400s were, I believe, the same as the 440. I can't say this for absolute certainty, though, but I'll ask my Chrysler guy/co-builder next time I see him.
Yes, I was referring to the blocks themselves. I did a test-fit of my 440 with a '76 casting date to see how the headers would fit and it took little more than some careful guiding to get it in. They're a little different in design, but they do swap easier than nearly any other small-to-big block conversion I've ever done. Unfortunately, I don't have pictures yet since the motor is in the final assembly stage and I'm working as a 2-man show. I had 8 years of hot rod building before this, but none with Chrysler and my friend who assists me is a big Chrysler guy with over 30 years experience, but has to prioritize his business-work first, so we're limited to the time that we both have free to get some things done.
The basic point of it is that when the motor mount styles were changed along with the casting design for the 440, it made it easier to fit in a small block subframe. My friend says that this is due to the gas crisis and the decrease in demand for the 440 made the sub frame from the small blocks significantly more used and caused a delay in production to go with a big block, so they made the motor mounts compatible so that they could minimize production time, or so the legend of the last 440s goes.
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Post by countrybunker on Apr 16, 2012 9:11:35 GMT -5
I sent an email to shumacker ind. Askin if thier engine swap motor mounts would work on a cbody. They responded saying that the c body missing in the add was just an oversight. The kit will work in the monacos/cbodys. The guy also noted that you can bolt the big block right into the small block k frame as is, with factory mounts but the motor would be 1" forward, and 3/4" taller in the engine bay.
Zac
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Post by sigmfsk on Apr 16, 2012 16:56:18 GMT -5
I sent an email to shumacker ind. Askin if thier engine swap motor mounts would work on a cbody. They responded saying that the c body missing in the add was just an oversight. The kit will work in the monacos/cbodys. The guy also noted that you can bolt the big block right into the small block k frame as is, with factory mounts but the motor would be 1" forward, and 3/4" taller in the engine bay. Zac Good info, Country. I added it here: bluesmobiles.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=gotopost&board=details&thread=370&post=4191It seems to conflict with cbodymopar's experience, but those Schumacher guys seem to know what they're talking about also. It will be interesting to see how it all shakes out. thanks, arthur
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Post by countrybunker on May 5, 2012 22:25:20 GMT -5
Got the inner fenders all done, and primered up, also got the rad core support done to. Just waiting for paint. The passenger inner fender was a huge pain in da ass! It was heavily surface rusted, and went through 5 wire wheels! Still isnt perfect, but im fine with it. The core support was a piece of cake, this one came from arthurs 76 parts car. Barely had any rust. Almost getting there..... My buddy gave me a call tonight and said there was a car show going on in the next town over. Went and grabbed the car, and headed out that way. Arrived to a few cars, a bunch of witch were leaving. Walked around for a lil while and was debating on whether to leave or not. All of a sudden a guy comes up to me asking if I owned the car, I says yes sir, he introduces himself as ghostman from BBC. I yelled out hey rob! lol Finally got to meet the man! Had a great time talking with him, and his wife. One stand up dude! Rob, glad to have run into you! Nice getting to meet ya brother! zac
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