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Post by 58hemifury on Jun 12, 2013 9:36:02 GMT -5
This car is going to go for some good money. It's amazing how a car that was a CHP car will sell for so much more than a comparable car from a different agency.
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Post by sigmfsk on Jun 12, 2013 16:04:13 GMT -5
This car is going to go for some good money. It's amazing how a car that was a CHP car will sell for so much more than a comparable car from a different agency. It's the only CHP I've seen with an original paint job. I understand this could only happen if the CHP sold the car to another police agency. So that's one cool thing about the car. But now that it's been Matt-ified, I think the only remaining prospective purchasers don't care about those types of things, and would simply restore it the way they think would be close enough to accurate. So it will be interesting to see what it goes for in the modified condition. My guess is that LV hit it right with: > This is one car that the buyer will be disappointed with after the > purchase because it will sell for an undeservedly high price. because the winning bidder will bid based on what they think it is, vs. what it actually is.
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Post by 58hemifury on Jun 12, 2013 21:08:02 GMT -5
I'd love to have an original CHP car like this one but I just can't believe once again that this car has been bid more than I paid for my running driving Gran Fury (which also wears it's original paint) that is in so much better shape with a clean original interior, and came with rechromed bumpers, and 2 truck loads of NOS and good original parts and is basically (in reality, not Bluesmobile world) the same car. Adam
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Post by sigmfsk on Jun 12, 2013 23:38:38 GMT -5
I'd love to have an original CHP car like this one but I just can't believe once again that this car has been bid more than I paid for my running driving Gran Fury (which also wears it's original paint) that is in so much better shape with a clean original interior, and came with rechromed bumpers, and 2 truck loads of NOS and good original parts and is basically (in reality, not Bluesmobile world) the same car. Adam Ahhh, I see what you mean. With the blumo connection, I think there is a premium for a 1974 Monaco CHP over a 1975 Mendocino Fury, but I think a major portion of the difference in prices between this car and yours is simply "advertised sneakily vs. advertised legitimately" and "advertised e-bay vs. advertised locally". Matt had his car for sale for $7K. If it sells on e-bay $9K, I might consider kicking myself that I could have flipped it for $2K profit. But I couldn't in good conscience advertise it the way Matt is advertising it. If I advertised it with full disclosure, I think it would fetch much less than $7K. Right now, I think prospective purchasers are thinking that the reason the car isn't running is because Matt just pulled it from a barn and put it for sale. But we know that Matt installed his Fury motor and tried at several different times to get it running. Whatever the reason that wasn't achieved, it's not listed in the e-bay ad. On your 75 Fury, I think that the seller, 74furypursuit, could have gotten a bit more money if he sold it on e-bay and turned up the advertising charm on it. But I think he had other goals than extracting the most money for a prospective customer. He treated you right and represented it fairly, and hats off to him on a good deal.
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Post by forzav12 on Jun 13, 2013 0:15:33 GMT -5
This car is going to go for some good money. It's amazing how a car that was a CHP car will sell for so much more than a comparable car from a different agency. It's the only CHP I've seen with an original paint job. I understand this could only happen if the CHP sold the car to another police agency. So that's one cool thing about the car. But now that it's been Matt-ified, I think the only remaining prospective purchasers don't care about those types of things, and would simply restore it the way they think would be close enough to accurate. So it will be interesting to see what it goes for in the modified condition. My guess is that LV hit it right with: > This is one car that the buyer will be disappointed with after the > purchase because it will sell for an undeservedly high price. because the winning bidder will bid based on what they think it is, vs. what it actually is. Actually, it was quite possible to purchase a CHP run out wearing its original paint. I did exactly that more than once while I was a CHP officer. Couple Mustangs, a Diplomat, a Chevy or two,etc. While the ASMs were supposed to scrape off the decals and spray bomb some black on the doors, many times they wouldn't, especially if they were selling one out of the local area office to another state employee. One car that I purchased stilll had the E plates attached-a definate no-no!
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Post by fordjockey on Jun 13, 2013 10:56:03 GMT -5
Mine was painted gold & white before it was painted flatten out black. I left a spot on the inside hood rim.
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Post by Ghostbluesman (Ghostsoldier) on Jun 13, 2013 12:58:02 GMT -5
I just discovered my car has a gold hood, under the black.
Rob
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Post by 58hemifury on Jun 13, 2013 20:28:26 GMT -5
[quote author=sigmfsk board=cops thread=1359 post=10352 time=1371098318 On your 75 Fury, I think that the seller, 74furypursuit, could have gotten a bit more money if he sold it on e-bay and turned up the advertising charm on it. But I think he had other goals than extracting the most money for a prospective customer. He treated you right and represented it fairly, and hats off to him on a good deal.[/quote] Actually 74furypursuit was advertising the car for his friend Bill who is a retired Verona, NJ cop. He also owned the black and white '75 Gran Fury Verona, NJ police car that is on Allpar and many other sites with NJ plates (which he also sold). He now has a gorgeous black '64 Ford ex North Carolina state police car that he's working on. Adam Attachments:
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Post by flcl64 on Jun 14, 2013 11:50:55 GMT -5
Why is his eBay positive feedback so good? This might throw off some unwary buyers of the bull-shittery that goes about his general area of existence. Seriously, it's 100% positive. sigmfsk, haven't you given him any bad ratings?
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Post by sigmfsk on Jun 14, 2013 13:02:26 GMT -5
Why is his eBay positive feedback so good? This might throw off some unwary buyers of the bull-shittery that goes about his general area of existence. Seriously, it's 100% positive. sigmfsk, haven't you given him any bad ratings? My purchase with him was via pay-pal. I filed a dispute, but they wouldn't do anything because it was over 6 months when I filed. I haven't bought anything from him over e-bay. This 74 CHP ad seems carefully crafted to ensure that he can't get in trouble. He says "correct" motor, and doesn't answer the question when people ask if its original. He says the motor "turns over", which may mean that it doesn't have any pistons. He told me that car didn't come with hubcaps, and it's not clear to me that would be a violation of e-bay, as some of his pics show no hubcaps. I don't even know if its possible for someone to provide bad feedback if the car meets its description. What would someone say: "Based on the pics and description, I thought this car would be far cooler than it was"? This e-bay page seems to state that one can't to leave bad feedback if the car met its description: pages.ebay.com/services/forum/changes.htmlThis guy claims that e-bay works with the seller to remove negative feedback (presumably if the car met its description) > I decided to leave a negative feedback and low and behold, a > quick call to Ebay from affordableclassicsofpreston and the > Negative is removed. After speaking to Ebay I am told that in > certain categories, feedback can be removed, but the best bit, it > was removed automatically. www.ebay.co.uk/gds/BUYING-CARS-DISHONEST-SELLERS-AND-NEGATIVE-FEEDBACK/10000000015491484/g.htmlMy guess is that if the winning bidder gets the car, and finds out that it doesn't have a transmission, or pistons, or wiring behind the dash, or no hubcaps, or whatever, that he'll just be stuck and it would not be possible to leave bad feedback, since the car would technically meet the description. I think Matt sells a lot of things and knows how to do it. I've heard from some people that they had great dealings with him for years, and then got hosed. I've heard from other people that they were hosed right off the bat. I don't know how many people have had repeatedly great dealings with him. forzav got his Polara CHP from Matt, and didn't indicate that anything strange was afoot with the deal. Maybe this 100% positive feedback is actually an indication of great deals with Matt, and there might be a large "Laguna Matt is awesome" club of which I'm not aware.
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Post by Steam McQueen on Jun 17, 2013 10:50:20 GMT -5
- Sold - 34 bids - $7,101
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Post by Lord Vadus on Jun 17, 2013 11:51:45 GMT -5
Not too bad of a price despite the shady antics. I wonder when it'll resurface.
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Post by 58hemifury on Jun 17, 2013 19:04:32 GMT -5
Not too bad of a price despite the shady antics. I wonder when it'll resurface. I think it's a little pricey for a car needing full restoration considering a fully restored car will sell for about $20k but I doubt the new owner knows it needs a floor, has the wrong engine and trans, needs a harness, ect. ect. I wish them luck!
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