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Post by Ghostbluesman (Ghostsoldier) on Aug 13, 2012 22:41:19 GMT -5
Ahh...sweet music to the ears! Awesome, brother! ;D
Rob
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Post by Lord Vadus on Aug 14, 2012 0:27:17 GMT -5
And another little update. With the paint on the imminent horizon; I've been at the mercy of my paint guy for some time; then I started the engine swap... But, now that's all a matter of time. I test-fit my police upper door panels, installed the 14o speedometer, gauge, black gauge bezel, and horn pad with trim ring. It's really starting to feel like a proper bluesmobile.
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Post by sigmfsk on Aug 15, 2012 3:16:48 GMT -5
...It's really starting to feel like a proper bluesmobile. Oh yeah! I like that video; lots of room in there for 440 coolness!
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Post by Lord Vadus on Aug 24, 2012 13:26:27 GMT -5
Well, a little bad news and some good.
The good: I found a NOS driver's side mirror that's NOT REMOTE ADJUST so that I don't have to cut a hole in my tan cop upper door panels.
The bad: With the intake manifold I have on the car, the cop air cleaner won't fit and allow me to close the hood, so I have to buy a low-rise intake manifold.
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Post by sigmfsk on Aug 27, 2012 14:13:00 GMT -5
The bad: With the intake manifold I have on the car, the cop air cleaner won't fit and allow me to close the hood, so I have to buy a low-rise intake manifold. One thought would be to modify the cop air cleaner housing to have a drop base. With the air cleaner housing on the motor, nobody would notice, and it would allow you to keep your current intake.
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Post by Lord Vadus on Aug 27, 2012 17:37:46 GMT -5
One thought would be to modify the cop air cleaner housing to have a drop base. With the air cleaner housing on the motor, nobody would notice, and it would allow you to keep your current intake. That's a good idea; I'll have to look into it and the cost of it to see if its feasible; if it's less than $125.00 to do it, I'll go that route. Otherwise, I'll buy a new intake and offer my old one up here for trade for anything that interests me.
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Post by sigmfsk on Aug 27, 2012 19:39:25 GMT -5
One thought would be to modify the cop air cleaner housing to have a drop base... ...if it's less than $125.00 to do it, I'll go that route... I was thinking that you could get a dropped base. Here's one for $24: www.ebay.com/itm/AIR-CLEANER-14-DROP-BASE-5-1-8-CARB-FLANGE-K-N-/360477419598?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item53ee20e84e&vxp=mtrAnd then cutout a good portion of the bottom of the Monaco housing, and rivet this base to the Monaco housing, resulting in the entire thing sitting lower on the carb. I guess the first step is to see the current carb-to-hood clearance, and then see how much the base needs to be lowered to get the housing to fit. your friend in not needing to cut holes in the stock monaco hood, arthur
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Post by JennyBlues on Aug 29, 2012 3:19:55 GMT -5
Your car is coming along nicely! Where did you find the speedometer for it? Loved the 440 running video, sounds awesome!! Would love to hear that opened up on the road!
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Post by Lord Vadus on Aug 29, 2012 19:13:37 GMT -5
Well, I took measurements based off of the dimensions of the air cleaner and the dropped base and it wouldn't be enough clearance even if cut, so I have to go the route of a lower intake manifold. Your car is coming along nicely! Where did you find the speedometer for it? Loved the 440 running video, sounds awesome!! Would love to hear that opened up on the road! The speedometer was a part of a trade with Arthur for an 8-Track player. It's a tad sun-faded, but beautiful nonetheless. It won't be too long until it's up and driving.
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Post by sigmfsk on Aug 29, 2012 20:40:08 GMT -5
Well, I took measurements based off of the dimensions of the air cleaner and the dropped base and it wouldn't be enough clearance even if cut, so I have to go the route of a lower intake manifold. I was thinking that if your carb clears the hood by any real amount, you'd be able to get the air cleaner housing down around it. Here's a drop-base with a 2.0" drop: www.ecklerscorvette.com/corvette-air-cleaner-base-1965-1972.html> Most generic parts store 14x3 chrome air cleaners have a base with a > drop something between 0" - 1.25". There are a rare few out there with > a 1-3/8" drop. If you're like me, this isn't enough, even though it is > close. Here's the solution: > > This air cleaner I bought is a reproduction part for: > > -1970-72 LT1 Corvette/Camaro > -1969 Camaro Z/28 (302ci) > -1966-69 Corvette 427ci 1x4bbl (L88) > > This air cleaner will work with a dual-feed Holley carb, like a double > pumper, because it was designed by GM to work with the above > engines, which did come from the factory with dual-feed Holley carbs. It > has a HUGE 2.00" drop! www.thirdgen.org/techboard/carburetors/529713-ultimate-drop-base-air.htmlMaybe that'd give you that little bit extra clearance.
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Post by spanks79 on Aug 29, 2012 22:29:31 GMT -5
This hood clearance issue raises some concerns with my build. I have the exact same intake. The only real difference is that I have a Holley 770 cfm carb, but the heigth difference should be pretty much the same.
Looks like I will be taking some detailed measurements of my car with a 400 in it tomorrow. I looked at it a while ago and it seemed there was plenty of room. If memory serves me right that intake is 1.5" taller than stock, plus the 440 deck is about .75" taller than the 400 so by my calculations I need 2.5 to 2.75 inches minimum to mess with above the stock air cleaner.
FWIW, the engine sounds sweet. What exhaust manifolds did you end up using? Do you happen to know the casting numbers?
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Post by sigmfsk on Aug 30, 2012 5:07:24 GMT -5
If memory serves me right that intake is 1.5" taller than stock... Then I think there's enough room. A 440 with a stock manifold and stock dual snorkel air cleaner housing fits under the hood. Not much clearance, but apparently enough: A dual snorkel has 1/4" drop base: The new intake is 1.5" taller. So to have the top of the air cleaner housing at the same height, relative to the end rails, one needs the air cleaner housing to have a 0.25" + 1.5" drop base = 1.75" drop base. And that's available with the aforementioned 2.0" drop base. I think you could go even higher if you wanted, because you don't need the hood insulation, which would give you a bit, and you could scallop the hood bracing in certain areas to give you some more room. Looking the info another way, here's a pic showing how much room I had from the end rails of the 440 to the hood insulation. Actually, it wasn't the block end-rails - it was from the top of the valley tray holddown brackets. your friend in trying to find ways of making things fit, arthur
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Post by Lord Vadus on Aug 30, 2012 8:55:53 GMT -5
This hood clearance issue raises some concerns with my build. I have the exact same intake. The only real difference is that I have a Holley 770 cfm carb, but the heigth difference should be pretty much the same. Looks like I will be taking some detailed measurements of my car with a 400 in it tomorrow. I looked at it a while ago and it seemed there was plenty of room. If memory serves me right that intake is 1.5" taller than stock, plus the 440 deck is about .75" taller than the 400 so by my calculations I need 2.5 to 2.75 inches minimum to mess with above the stock air cleaner. FWIW, the engine sounds sweet. What exhaust manifolds did you end up using? Do you happen to know the casting numbers? Presently, the only exhaust on the car is the stock 440 headers. My Hooker headers wouldn't fit because of the torsion bar setup, so I'll be re-using the stock ones until I get another set that are compatible.
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Post by spanks79 on Aug 30, 2012 9:25:41 GMT -5
Do you know what year and application your 440 came from? I am leaning towards using manifolds myself, I have a set from the rv that came with my engine. They are huge. Plus I have a set off of a 400. Based on the video, your manifolds look bigger than my 400 manifolds and smaller than my 440 manifolds.
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Post by Sd.Kfz. 400 on Aug 30, 2012 14:13:33 GMT -5
Did you use the small block subframe? Did that lift the engine?
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