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Post by sigmfsk on Sept 8, 2011 19:15:25 GMT -5
Here: bluesmobiles.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=gotopost&board=information&thread=242&post=1265DaD posted a lot of great HD screenshots, resized for computer viewing. I was looking at this pic: and it looked like I could see the holes in the header panel for the DODGE lettering. Here's the full-size pic: imageshack.us/f/269/bb24i.jpg/and here's the full-resolution cropped pic showing the header panel: I looked at the "hero" shot of the front of the car when they're running down the Nazi's, and here's a cropped, slightly resized smaller pic of the header panel: Now it seems that in the advertising materials, the car always has DODGE But the movie car(s) never have the lettering. Originally, I thought that the lettering might be an option, and I guess I haven't thought about it since. Is it our understanding that all 1974 & 1975 Monacos (without hideaway headlights) always came from the factory with DODGE on the header panel? So the movie cars with the DODGE missing was solely a movie thing? If they removed the DODGE letters on the header panel and didn't reinstall them, that seems to fit with the theory that they removed the Monaco fender emblems and didn't reinstall them. your friend in loving this HD stuff! /arthur
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Post by Lord Vadus on Sept 8, 2011 22:02:16 GMT -5
I remember reading that many police Monacos came without the "DODGE" lettering so that they could put the department name on the front or the vehicle designation; such as "Highway Patrol" or the likes.
Personally, since the publicity photos shows the lettering, I'm going to call it acceptable. After all, if the movie posters have it, then at least, at one point, a Bluesmobile did.
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Post by Steam McQueen on Sept 8, 2011 23:07:59 GMT -5
I always assumed every '74 Monaco would have come with the DODGE letters on the header panel and that they were removed for the movie Blumo. From a continuity perspective maybe it was easier to just remove all the letters?? But there is evidence to suggest 1974 police Monaco's came with the letters ... The 1974 NYSP is an anomaly with its small 'DODGE' ... Maybe that's something Ted Kedala came up with on his own?
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Post by tk826 on Sept 8, 2011 23:42:21 GMT -5
- I believe the hood lettering might have been removed from the original Bluesmobile to avoid what is now considered product placement. - The NYSP is (from what I remember) the only car I have ever seen with small lettering. From what I understand, they were originally special ordered that way to allow the State Police lettering to be painted on the front. Here is a vintage shot from back in the day... Attachments:
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Post by sigmfsk on Sept 9, 2011 2:56:31 GMT -5
> [from Steam] But there is evidence to suggest 1974 police Monaco's > came with the letters...
Oh, right on, here's some more:
It looks like that New York police header panel is the only way one could get a 74 Monaco (either police or civilian) without the standard DODGE header lettering. Thanks guys.
> [from TK826] I believe the hood lettering might have been > removed from the original Bluesmobile to avoid what is now > considered product placement.
I wondered about that. It certainly is a little odd that the lettering is on the marketing materials but not in the movie, but I can't think why they'd want to remove it from the header panel, but not the fuel access door. Maybe some movie big wig that didn't know cars saw the marketing materials with Jake and Elwood sitting on the hood and yelled "get those darn DODGE letters off the front of that car before you guys start filming! And get Elwood some wingtip shoes!" without realizing that DODGE was also on the fuel access door.
The key point for my replica is that I now know to not fill the holes in the header panel for the DODGE lettering (or the fenders for the Monaco emblem, or the fuel access door for the D lettering). There's no hole filling!
thanks all, arthur
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Post by sigmfsk on Jan 28, 2012 12:56:37 GMT -5
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Post by sigmfsk on Jan 29, 2012 21:20:59 GMT -5
I was going through the old BBC morph thread, adding info here, and I now see that we had a "DODGE header panel" thread in the civilian section, and now this new one in the police section. It seems overkill for this particular topic to have a thread in both places, so I'm going to try the admin function to move the posts from that other thread here, so it will all be in one place.
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Post by Lord Vadus on Mar 23, 2012 20:17:37 GMT -5
I found a hole-less header that was too rusted to save on a salvage-yard 1975 Monaco here in Wisconsin. So far, I know of no other like it.
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Post by sigmfsk on Mar 24, 2012 3:18:46 GMT -5
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Post by generalmopars on Aug 27, 2012 22:18:28 GMT -5
The NYS car was the exception as far as the lettering went. But as far as Bluesmobiles go most of the movie cars had no visible lettering on the front. When I built mine (from a civilian model) I decided to fill in the front lettering holes prior to painting. One of those things that you wouldn't notice on film, but looks more correct when you see the car in person.
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Post by 58hemifury on Dec 23, 2012 19:50:01 GMT -5
The 1974 NYSP is an anomaly with its small 'DODGE' ... Maybe that's something Ted Kedala came up with on his own? [/quote] My friend has a "survivor" '74 Monaco Brougham which is 100% original and it also has the small DODGE emblem on the header panel. The reason for it on NYSP cars was to make room for the lettering, I have no idea why my friend Mike's car has it.
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Post by sigmfsk on Jan 2, 2013 18:48:12 GMT -5
My friend has a "survivor" '74 Monaco Brougham which is 100% original and it also has the small DODGE emblem on the header panel. The reason for it on NYSP cars was to make room for the lettering, I have no idea why my friend Mike's car has it. I'm guessing your friend's survivor brougham is not a cop car. Hopefully that guess is not as meaningless as it sounds, as we saw a "brougham" Fury cop car: bluesmobiles.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=police&thread=1187Does it also have the large D O D G E lettering? If it has the large letters, too, maybe the factory just got carried away and added the small lettering by mistake? But it sure would look strange with two sets of dodge lettering on the front, so if it only has the small lettering and doesn't have the holes for the D O D G E letters, what does that mean? 1) some bizarre civilian option would give small lettering vs. large lettering? 2) the car was coming down the line, and they didn't have any civilian header panels, so put a NYSP panel on? 3) car was in an accident after it left the factory and they replaced it with a NYSP panel? Wow, don't know, but sure is interesting seeing it on something else other than the NYSP.
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Post by 58hemifury on Jan 2, 2013 19:00:08 GMT -5
You are right, no holes for the large lettering and it is not a Police car, just a fully loaded brown coupe.
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Post by tk826 on Jan 3, 2013 0:46:36 GMT -5
hemi,
Do you happen to have a photo or two that you can post?
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Post by 58hemifury on Jan 3, 2013 6:28:28 GMT -5
No, never had too much interest in the car so I never took a pic but I usually see the car in May, I'll get a pic then.
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