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Post by 58hemifury on Mar 20, 2015 21:26:15 GMT -5
I figured I start a build thread for HOB 3, for those of you who don't know about this car, it's the first House of Blues, Cambridge MA's display car which became Myrtle Beach SC's car in 2003 when Cambridge HOB closed. Last year a light pole fell on it crushing the roof, the car was pushed behind the bar and a replacement was put in place. The car was put for sale on Craigslist and that's where I bought it. I want you guy's imput on whether I should replace the roof and leave as much of the car original as Rick Shields built it, restore it as best possible to how Rick Shields originally built it, restore it as screen accurate as possible (replace the push bar, add front side markers, eliminate the vent windows, new paint with TK's stencils, ect.) Most likely I'm going to change the Brougham tail lights to base Monaco tail lights and add front side markers just because it looks funny with out them and I really dislike the Brougham tail lights even if I leave the rest alone. These are the Craigslist pics of the car
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Post by 58hemifury on Mar 20, 2015 22:05:30 GMT -5
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Post by Elwood on Mar 20, 2015 22:16:43 GMT -5
First off, I'm really glad you got the car(s) needed to bring this one back. Also, I love the fact that I, and everyone else here have a voice in the rebirth.Thanks. Wow, I have so many questions that go towards a choice, but I'll just say this for starters: If it were my car/project, I would bring it back to its' glory as a cross between screen-accurate and HOB accurate. Since there's a clear paper-trail to it's origins and authenticity as an HOB car, I think that aspect of it should be preserved. After all, we know no Bluesmobile from the actual filming exists, but this is an authentic (first)HOB car. With that said, I agree about the vent windows.
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Post by Steam McQueen on Mar 21, 2015 0:14:54 GMT -5
- The authenticity as the 1st HoB Blumo is huge. But even if you change some stuff, doors, pushbar etc., it will always be that car, will it not? It's great history but I think it could look a lot better, upgraded to screen accurate as possible is the way I voted.
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Post by 58hemifury on Mar 21, 2015 7:29:13 GMT -5
- The authenticity as the 1st HoB Blumo is huge. But even if you change some stuff, doors, pushbar etc., it will always be that car, will it not? It's great history but I think it could look a lot better, upgraded to screen accurate as possible is the way I voted. I always thought that leaving it in it's rough untouched state would be more desirable to the Bluesmobile fan because when Orlando's Bluesmobile came up for sale on Ebay people on here commented about it not having it's Rick Shield's paint job anymore. I'm definitely planning on having the seats repaired, a cleaner dash pad, replacing the roof (obviously), painting the roof and having someone repaint the House of Blues logo, repairing the rot at the base of the rear window and in the firewall, and getting it road worthy and reliable, after that I'm not sure other than repainting the P1 just because it looks like the car in everyone's vacation photos and that's what people want to see. But I am strongly considering everyone's opinions, that's why I set up the poll.
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Post by 58hemifury on Mar 21, 2015 8:42:26 GMT -5
that's why I set up the poll. "Polls" should be a really sensitive subject when it comes to this car. Bad joke, get it, poll/pole?
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Post by AZBlues on Mar 21, 2015 11:08:46 GMT -5
Having a HOB Bluesmobile is good. Having a screen accurate HOB Bluesmobile is even better. Screen accurate with a few original HOB clues, best yet.
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Post by legendaryacura8 on Mar 21, 2015 12:10:34 GMT -5
I voted for restoring it to Rick Shields state. The reason being, we all know that no one owns an original bluesmobile (from the first movie), so every Blumo that any of us build strives to be as screen accurate as possible. What you have is a different sort of beast. Something that you can take different references from and something unique and original. For that reason, I say make it your own (Rick Shields) project, and preserve the history your car has...
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Post by 58hemifury on Mar 21, 2015 13:48:26 GMT -5
It'll be a while before the snow around it thaws, so I have time for everyone's opinions and ideas but how does this sound, leave it as is other than a roof, front marker lights, tail lights and repairing the interior but remove the to serve and protect that are on it and do that, police 178, the phone numbers, and P1 with TKs stencils? And maybe a nicer push bar, this one is crude looking. That way the car gains some screen accuracy and never loses it's originality or Rick Shieldsness. The vent windows depends on whether I can get all of the parts to eliminate them,the parts car has power windows so I don't know if the parts I have between the two cars will work.
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Post by Steam McQueen on Mar 21, 2015 13:51:57 GMT -5
- Visually speaking, what makes it a HoB car? To me, it's Rick's "signature" he puts on the C-pillar ... That would be a neat touch for sure to keep that somehow, but how? Would you recreate that on the new pillar? Rick is still around, how cool would that be to have him redo that on either side!! Then it would become a $20,000 Blumo When you suggested to "eliminate the vent windows" did you mean swapping the doors completely? No matter what, it's definitely another exciting project to watch.
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Post by Steam McQueen on Mar 21, 2015 14:52:24 GMT -5
The vent windows depends on whether I can get all of the parts to eliminate them,the parts car has power windows so I don't know if the parts I have between the two cars will work. Ah ok, we were typing at the same time. As far as I know we've only covered this in theory, I can't recall anyone actually doing it. I think at least two members over the years have said it's doable. So that in itself would be a beneficial how-to right there. Have you ever done that before?
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Post by 58hemifury on Mar 21, 2015 16:55:57 GMT -5
I've never messed with one of these bodies before my Gran Fury and more so with my last Bluesmobile, I just know the door shell is the same and that means you can remove or add vent windows if you have all of the parts. I have to check my '74 or '75 parts books (I don't have parts books for '76 or '77) and see if the regulator is the same with and without vents and what other parts I need, and if they are the same with power windows.
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Post by 58hemifury on Mar 21, 2015 16:57:58 GMT -5
- Visually speaking, what makes it a HoB car? To me, it's Rick's "signature" he puts on the C-pillar ... That would be a neat touch for sure to keep that somehow, but how? Would you recreate that on the new pillar? Rick is still around, how cool would that be to have him redo that on either side!! Then it would become a $20,000 Blumo When you suggested to "eliminate the vent windows" did you mean swapping the doors completely? No matter what, it's definitely another exciting project to watch. I have plans on having someone copy that logo. If you notice mine doesn't say the location like Orlando HOB does.
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Post by spanks79 on Mar 22, 2015 9:28:49 GMT -5
I've never messed with one of these bodies before my Gran Fury and more so with my last Bluesmobile, I just know the door shell is the same and that means you can remove or add vent windows if you have all of the parts. I have to check my '74 or '75 parts books (I don't have parts books for '76 or '77) and see if the regulator is the same with and without vents and what other parts I need, and if they are the same with power windows. The front window regulators between vent window and non vent windows are not the same. I gutted an 76 for parts that had vent windows and we did not take the front regulators out of the doors because they are not the same. I was able to find a couple good regulators on car-part for $35 ea.
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Post by mrroverrover on Mar 23, 2015 6:59:37 GMT -5
I've voted restore to Rick Shields glory BUT I'm with Elwood on changing a few obvious things to make it more screen accurate too. A little bit of both but not losing the originality of being a genuine HOB car! Not helped much have I
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