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Post by spanks79 on Dec 8, 2013 0:49:15 GMT -5
Did you all see this episode last Monday where Richard was asked to build a Bandit TA replica for a friend but only had 6 days to do it? They say they are going to give the car away here dsc.discovery.com/tv-shows/fast-n-loud/fast-n-wow-giveaway.htmIn my opinion this was one of the better episodes of Fast n Loud I have ever seen. You can tell its all fixed and set up but I still found it entertaining. The Bandit TA is easily one of my favorite movie cars. I would love to own one one day. That got me thinking what would it really take to build a Bandit TA? Actually I think it would be WAY easier than building a Bluesmobile. A dcent 77 TA is fairly easy to purchase, compared to a 1974 Monaco. There are lots of reproduction and bolt on aftermarket parts avaliable for 2nd generation F Bodies including rust repair panels where aftermarket and repair parts for the Monaco are very limited. So if a Bandit is easier to build than a Bluesmobile, what movie cars are more difficult? The Bluesmobile has to be one of the most challenging. Opinions? |
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Post by 58hemifury on Dec 8, 2013 1:16:38 GMT -5
Christine ('58 Belvedere/Fury Hybrid) is a much more expensive and harder to build than a Bluesmobile in my opinion.
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Post by legendaryacura8 on Dec 8, 2013 1:58:17 GMT -5
I don't know about pricing for a Christine and repair panels, but I doubt it costs more than Ecto 1. A 1959 Cadillac Miller Meteor End Loader Hearse. From what I've seen, those things are damn near impossible to find, and prices easily go over 100,000 for a rust bucket!
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Post by spanks79 on Dec 8, 2013 10:00:01 GMT -5
Christine ('58 Belvedere/Fury Hybrid) is a much more expensive and harder to build than a Bluesmobile in my opinion. I was going to guess that Christine would be more difficult based on discussions I have read on this board, but I did not have any data to support that. ECTO 1 did not even come to mind when I wrote this post. Also I was trying not to confuse cost with difficulty. Like in the Fast n Loud story, some rich guy decides he wants a car and lays out the cash. Cash can overcome difficulty to a point but some cars and parts are difficult to find at any cost. A Bullitt Mustang would be expensive to build, but not necessarily difficult or at least any more difficult than a "normal" mustang restoration, plus lots of parts available. (Reminds me of the one Kounts Kustoms did for the pawn star guy...$30k!?!? What a joke, maybe if you did all the work yourself. for a profesionally done restoration I'd figure at least double if not triple that). I just did a quick search on eBay and there were no Bluesmobile, Christine or ECTO 1 candidates to be found. Looks like we have a top 3 in most difficult to build. |
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Post by legendaryacura8 on Dec 8, 2013 14:13:22 GMT -5
Yeah, as far as sheet metal I think ECTO-1 would also be a pain. I'm sure you can source parts for the front end because it's just a '59 Cadillac, but al of the custom work for the hearse section can't be that hard to come by. Then, if you're going for screen accuracy, all of the special racks on the roof and in the coffin compartment for the racks, plus and extra gear around the dash, and you're looking at way more than a craig 8 track player, a speedometer, and some upper dash panels, haha.
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Post by Lord Vadus on Dec 8, 2013 14:28:49 GMT -5
I'm going to say that the Bluesmobile is one of the most difficult replicas to build properly. The way I see it, it's down to the Bluesmobile and Ambulance.
The 1959 Cadillac is more difficult, in terms of finding the correct vehicle, but you also have more leeway. A 1960 can be modified by a skilled welder to become a '59 and the average person can't tell the difference between an end-loader model or a hearse. Fewer still note the roof-integrated lights found only on the ambulance that have to be added to the hearse platform.
The Bluesmobile, on the other hand, shares a body with the '74 through '77 Monaco platform, BUT requires the '74-specific front end. Unlike the Cadillac, where sheet metal is still available, you have to find an intact front end from a '74 to be correct if you want to adapt a solid, rust-free Monaco of any other year. Rust is also a bigger issue with the Monaco than the others. They're made of thinner steel and, as a result, are more rust-prone and can require more time to rework; especially since nearly every panel has to be hand-made. The Monacos are also not cars that people were inclined to save. '74s only come up for sale every few years in varying conditions.
The '59 Cadillac is more difficult only due to the cost of the vehicle and the fact that most people don't want to see them turned into Ghostbusters replica.
I discount the Fury because you can go by movie or book, and, if you choose book, it's fairly easy to build a replica. That '58 in the New Yorker thread would make an excellent book car.
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Post by Steam McQueen on Dec 8, 2013 19:01:38 GMT -5
In my opinion this was one of the better episodes of Fast n Loud I have ever seen. You can tell its all fixed and set up but I still found it entertaining. Definitely entertaining. It's a 2 part episode and I just watched part 1 on daTube ... Ol' Burt sure isn't looking too mobile these days. He's had some bruises along the way. --- These folks in Florida might sell more Trans Am's than anybody else ... - www.transamflorida.com/TRANSAMFORSALE.htm  |
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Post by spanks79 on Dec 8, 2013 21:41:36 GMT -5
They have a lot of nice cars. 20+ Potential Bandit cars. |
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Post by Mr Mercer on Dec 9, 2013 6:59:11 GMT -5
Love to do this to a 69 charger . It might be recognizable to some , but if not its still a bad ass charger ~ not an obnoxious one . Side note : Many times my blumo gets a Rosco , Adam 12 or even a Mayberry comment at a show . |
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Post by Mr Mercer on Dec 9, 2013 7:02:47 GMT -5
Now this would be a pricy replica to build . Bet you would get a lot of shit at a car show for doing it . |
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Post by sigmfsk on Dec 9, 2013 15:38:24 GMT -5
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Post by 58hemifury on Dec 9, 2013 18:12:10 GMT -5
I've heard that my Fury is quite controversial behind closed doors (and my back) with the "puritans" in the forward look crowd and Golden Fin Society which is the '56-'58 Fury club. Don't get me wrong it also is appreciated in both groups by other people but I actually enjoy the fact they hate it so much, I'm happy to piss off people with my cars.
Adam
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Post by spanks79 on Dec 10, 2013 22:35:47 GMT -5
Holy crap $18000 was a steal for that thing. That's hard to believe that the actual car with all the extras went for that kind of cash. I guess the desirability factor comes into play on this one. I guess it does not surprise me someone makes a Daytona kit, I assume you need to start with a 69 charger? |
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Post by legendaryacura8 on Dec 11, 2013 2:03:47 GMT -5
I would think the most difficult part of a conversion would be fabricating the flush rear window...
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Post by spanks79 on Dec 11, 2013 7:31:20 GMT -5
I would think the most difficult part of a conversion would be fabricating the flush rear window... It's not listed on the new kit but there is a "rear window plug" listed here www.americansportscar.com/products/1970-super-bird-body-kit"Parts list: Nose $700.00, Wing $700.00, Z brackets (pair) $150.00, Rear Window Plug with Transistions $300.00, Latch Tray $150.00, Fender Scoops(pair) $150.00, Front Lower Valence $300.00, Head Light Kit $350.00, Hood (bolt on) $550.00." I didn't even realize the rear window needed to be changed. |
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