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Post by spanks79 on Nov 17, 2012 20:14:00 GMT -5
Like most of us, I am on a constant search for critical parts. Most of the avaliable parts are found with the help of this board, but I still look whenever I can. In the Cincinnati area salvage yards are useless for old cars, they only carry late model stuff. Well earlier this year on a trip to central Ohio I passed this old, shady looking junk yard just south of Columbus and I decided that I needed to stop there sometime and look for the elusive k-code Monaco that is in near mint, almost drive away condition , we can dream. So fast forward 5 months and on the way home from a buisness meeting a few weeks ago on a Saturday I remember that I am close to this place so I stopped in. I cannot I imagine what the guy working was thinking when a "city slicker" driving a Prius wearing dress kakhis and button down shirt pulls in the lot. He probably thought I was a state inspector or something. Well he was plesent enough, and entertained my desire to find a 74-77 Dodge / Plymouth c-body. "go look around, it'll take you 3 hours to see it all if you don't take your time". Ok, I am hopelessly under dressed, don't have a lot of time, but here we go. This ends up being the coolest place I have ever been in a long time, check out these pics I shot with my cell phone. This yard has been around for 70 years, the old guy who started it, opened it right after he got out of the service after WWII, lots of this stuff has been there that long. Old cars as far as you can see! After all the walking and looking is was not all for not. Look what I found. A real live Mt Sterling Ohio 74 Monaco police cruiser!!!!! This thing is wasted! The rear bumper is hanging down because the frame rails have rotted away from the body. The rust is incredible. Doors do not open. I interior trashed. I will post more info on this car in another post as it has / had some interesting options. I ended up going back to buy a few parts off of it but the proprietor of the yard must enjoy his parts more than cash as he was not willing to deal too much, which explains why he has so much sitting out there. More on that later as well. They also had two Furys, but they too were wasted.
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Post by ti4438 on Nov 17, 2012 21:16:12 GMT -5
Very cool and very strange.All that stuff he's never gonna do anything with.
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Post by sigmfsk on Nov 18, 2012 7:16:07 GMT -5
Thanks for all those pics, Spanks. Of course, the Monaco and Fury's were of most interest to me, but the whole collection "set the mood" of a great place to visit. It's too bad he's not more interested in selling the parts.
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Post by spanks79 on Nov 18, 2012 11:35:29 GMT -5
Thanks for all those pics, Spanks. Of course, the Monaco and Fury's were of most interest to me, but the whole collection "set the mood" of a great place to visit. It's too bad he's not more interested in selling the parts. As soon as I get a few more pics uploaded I will document my findings specific to the Mt Sterling car. The Furys were garden variety cars with minimal useable parts to begin with, combine that with 25-30 years of sitting in the yard with windows down and or broken out = scrap. Look at this picture Those look like leaves in the back window, it is actually a vine that has grown into and filled the car, this is typical of a lot of the vehicles in the lot. The Mt Sterling car has rusted so bad that the sub frame has rusted away from the body, I tried to pull back the rubber floring and I was looking at the ground. I was afraid I would encounter some resistance when it came to purchasing parts off the car. A guy doesn't acquire such a collection by easily getting rid of stuff! So this deal is more of a hoard than a enterprise. On the phone I enquired about the "short" door trims, tail light upper trims (mine are broken) and the cop car manual mirror. He told me $100, fair, not fantastic but likely what I would pay on the board and eBay. So I was in to "break the ice" as they say on the picker show. My goal was to also land a 140 speedo, ticket light, headliner hardware, front and rear bumpers, header panel, grille, and headlight trims. Basically the only useable stuff on the car. I didn't really need the stuff but I would rather have it for myself or others on the board than see it rot away in the yard. On my second trip to the yard, dressed appropriately, tools in the truck, and cash in my pocket I got a better look at the car. The 74 ticket light was present but rough, the 140 speedo (notice I didn't say 14o speedo ) was there but had been exposed the the weather for years, the mirror was in fact a remote mirror. So after looking at the car, I called the guy out and explained what I was interested in. Door trims, tail light trims, ticket light, speedo, headliner hardware and dome light, and if we could make a deal, I would take the bumpers, header panel and headlight trim. So after reminding him what we had already agreed on, I tossed out a number to take all of the above, I knew it was low but I was prepared for negotiation plus I had cash in hand. He just said no, no counter offer or anything. Then tells me he wants $200 for the trim parts, weathered speedo, ticket light and headliner hardware and that "condition is everything". Laughingly, I said I know and the condition is not here! In the end I ended up taking the door trims, tail light trims, ticket light and crusty speedo for $150. I figured it was worth it for the experience.
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Post by sigmfsk on Nov 18, 2012 12:22:12 GMT -5
In the end I ended up taking the door trims, tail light trims, ticket light and crusty speedo for $150. I figured it was worth it for the experience. That does seem like a tolerable price. Especially if you include all the fun you got to have. On the speedo, this car was a 1974, but it had a 1975-1977 140 speedo? Is the odometer units digit red? This would indicate that it wasn't factory installed and was a replacement, and there would be typically be a sticker on the lower driver a-pillar indicating this. King-of-the-hill was like this. your friend in trying to be supportive by pointing out how rare your speedo is, arthur
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Post by spanks79 on Nov 18, 2012 12:43:40 GMT -5
In the end I ended up taking the door trims, tail light trims, ticket light and crusty speedo for $150. I figured it was worth it for the experience. That does seem like a tolerable price. Especially if you include all the fun you got to have. On the speedo, this car was a 1974, but it had a 1975-1977 140 speedo? Is the odometer units digit red? This would indicate that it wasn't factory installed and was a replacement, and there would be typically be a sticker on the lower driver a-pillar indicating this. King-of-the-hill was like this. your friend in trying to be supportive by pointing out how rare your speedo is, arthur You are correct Arthur. This car s certainly a 74. It has. 74 front bumper and fabric headliner, but the speedo is 140, with red tenths. It however is siezed solid. I have disassembled the entire thing and the face is in really good shape with only minimal discoloration in the warning light areas, the numbers only have minimal discoloration. The magnet arm shaft where the speedo cable attaches is frozen. I have been soaking it in PB blaster overnight. If I use it I will likely somehow use donar parts out of my 12o speedo to get it all working. I guess I'm glad to know its rare. I thought the red digits were strange as I had never seen that before. But again, similar to a tilt telescopic column in a cop car, although rare, it's not necessarally valuable.
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Post by sigmfsk on Nov 18, 2012 12:54:45 GMT -5
...the speedo is 140, with red tenths...although rare, it's not necessarally valuable. True. Maybe you can feel better that according to the many worlds theory, in some other universe, there is a Spanks that just found a 14o speedo with no red units digit, and in his universe the movie the Blues Brothers was made with a 140 speedo that had a red units digit. We just need to get him on the board, so you can trade. Or maybe I was just hitting the white russians a little much last night and need to get some more sleep.
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Post by spanks79 on Nov 18, 2012 13:35:45 GMT -5
True, You may have been drinking a bit much.
I really would have something special if the Blumo had one of these ultra rare replacement speedos! Oh well, one can dream.
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Post by Steam McQueen on Nov 19, 2012 1:03:12 GMT -5
Cool pics, Spanks. This old panel truck here ... ... belonged to Stanley Eakin of Grove City, Ohio, a refrigerator tech and quite a whiz. In 1954 he built this "tricycle" - The business is still alive in Orient, OH Good ol' Stan. I wonder how he's doing?
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Post by spanks79 on Nov 19, 2012 7:28:40 GMT -5
That's pretty cool Steam. I took that picture specifically for the weathered lettering on the side. Based on the tricycle being built prior to 54, one could assume that this truck was used during the build to haul parts. I would guess that panel truck to be a 48-49 Chevy / GMC.
I love that the tricycle has a 60hp V8! The engine and rear bumper on that thing probably came out of this yard!
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Post by spanks79 on Nov 20, 2012 19:12:59 GMT -5
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Post by sigmfsk on Nov 20, 2012 19:24:03 GMT -5
As Arthur pointed out it has some interesting options. The tag on the core support has corroded beyond all recognition. Wowsers. I was trying to think of some joke, but there's just nothing there. It looks like you have a passenger upper door panel, cop style. Maybe the driver side is there too, and you could replace the cardboard backings and get some good panels out of there. Is that a detachable shoulder harness seatbelt? The hardware is probably all junk, but if it is detachable, and you're ever back there, please see if you can get a pic of the numbers on the tongue. We can match it against my pics and it will help verify what hardware the movie blumo's had.
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Post by spanks79 on Nov 20, 2012 19:37:33 GMT -5
I looked at the seat belts, nothing about them struck me as different than a typical shoulder belt. What should i be looking for? Maybe I did not look hard enough at them. The passenger belt was cut at the buckle and the drivers belt was missing. I don't think the belt had been removed, the shoulder harness mount was gone but the b pillar trim appeared to be in place. So it seemed that someone maybe cut the belt and let it wind up into the retractor. Leaving the belt some where under the pile of crap on the floor. Edit: duh....it right there, hanging down on the floor. It never occurred to me that the door panels could be salvaged. The good news is this car is not likely going anywhere anytime soon and it is literally 5 min off of I-71, so going back is an easy option the next time I am in the area.
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Post by sigmfsk on Nov 20, 2012 20:12:49 GMT -5
I looked at the seat belts, nothing about them struck me as different than a typical shoulder belt. What should i be looking for? Hi Spanks: It's hard for me to visualize the seat belt setup with all that's going on in the pics. I made a post here: www.bluesmobiles.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=gotopost&board=details&thread=201&post=7228that shows more info on the detachable shoulder harness hardware. If it had the hardware, I'd be interested in pics showing the number imprinted into the tongue. your friend in rare cop goodies, arthur
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Post by dodgeroyalmonaco19 on Nov 20, 2012 21:51:36 GMT -5
How much do u think the man wants for the header panel and grill plus the left side light cover I'm very interseted in buying those 3 parts. I'd pay you to both remove and then sell to me!
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