blumo interior gold (tan) color
Feb 8, 2013 12:50:37 GMT -5
Post by sigmfsk on Feb 8, 2013 12:50:37 GMT -5
Spanks and I were just talking about interior blumo color:
www.bluesmobiles.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=gotopost&board=owners&thread=630&post=8549
and Legendary and I were also talking about the same thing:
www.bluesmobiles.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=gotopost&board=blumohowto&thread=312&post=7997
So this seems to be a good opportunity to put together what we know.
As far as I can tell, all 1974 Monacos came with a black steering column,
www.bluesmobiles.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=details&action=display&thread=231
So we know that the movie blumo wasn't a stock tan 1974 monaco (civilian or police), as the column was tan:
It's possible that the steering columns came from a stock later-year Monaco with a tan color, but that seems unlikely.
For all year monacos, the CHP-style hornpad (if present) was black:
www.bluesmobiles.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=details&action=display&thread=170
yet that in the movie was always tan:
Also of interest is that I believe that all 74 monacos had a black lower metal dash and glovebox
www.bluesmobiles.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=details&action=display&thread=204
and rubber cover for the bolt to mount the driver lap belt receptacle / front middle passenger lap belt
www.bluesmobiles.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=gotopost&board=details&thread=201&post=1023
but I don't think we ever get a clear shot of the dash in the movie, and certainly not of the rear floorboard area.
So we know there was a bunch of tan/brown dying going on. And it looks like they even dyed the steering wheel, as some shots show a color blend like this:
I think the CHP-style door panels are not stock color (they were dyed), and that the seat vinyl is not stock color. It may not be dyed - maybe it was simply reupholstered.
Here are two shots of the blumo that show the seam moving around:
I point out here:
www.bluesmobiles.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=gotopost&board=police&thread=540&post=3114
that maybe it is just sloppy ma mopar tolerances, but I've never seen a stock monaco with that deep brown color vinyl.
Here's a pic with some stock, and SEM camel colored parts:
Look at part #3, a stock chp-style 1974 upper door panel (from Laguna Matt). Look how light it is compared to the panels in the movie.
So, if, we say that the movie guys dyed:
hornpad
steering wheel
steering column
upper door panels
It would make sense to me that might have just dyed everything: interior a-pillar covers, dash, seat. They probably had some non-tan civilian cars in there, and it would be easier to dye everything on every car, rather than not dye one piece on an original tan car and have it stick out like a sore thumb.
So what color to dye? We have a lot of good info from folks on what they did and how it turned out, and I'll attempt to collate that info here later. For now, I can describe the pic above of some parts that I have:
1) 1974 stock tan visors (from tan monaco)
2) 1974 stock brown kick panels (from tan monaco)
3) 1974 stock chp-style cop upper door panel (from laguna matt fury tan car)
4) 1974 : marin county - dyed SEM camel
5) 1976 stock dash (from my civilian monaco)
6) 1974 stock brown lower a-pillar sharp protectors (from tan monaco)
here's a link so you know what I'm referring to:
www.bluesmobiles.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=gotopost&board=blumohowto&thread=312&post=7997
7) 1974 seat belt retractor cover
7a) inside, showing stock tan color
7b) outside, showing SEM camel dye
8) 1976 stock lower metal dash and glovebox (from my civilian monaco)
9) clothes hangers in rear seat area. You can't tell from the pic, but these are both stock, unpainted, but one is about the same color as the inside of the seat belt cover (stock tan color), and the other is darker, about the same color as the SEM camel outside of the seat belt color.
Looking at these pictures, the SEM camel does appear unacceptably red, but the actual colors isn't so bad.
It seems to me that the stock colors in a tan car were either:
1) light tan (visors, visor mount, door lock pulls, clothes hooks, door panels)
2) dark brown (kick panels, padded dash, lower metal dash, glovebox)
Without a gradient. It was either very light, or very dark.
My thoughts on the color matching to a blumo:
1) I'm not going to dye the visor. It has a 1974-only label on it, and it seems best to just leave it alone.
2) I'm not going to dye the kick panels, as they seem hard-use items and would eventually get the dye worn through.
so for things that I can leave stock tan or brown, leave them.
And things that I need to dye, dye them SEM camel, which seems:
a) an in-between the stock tan and stock brown, so it will help tie the blumo together, somewhat like the rug in the Big Lebowski.
b) a close match to whats in the movie blumo
your friend in getting the color right,
arthur
www.bluesmobiles.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=gotopost&board=owners&thread=630&post=8549
and Legendary and I were also talking about the same thing:
www.bluesmobiles.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=gotopost&board=blumohowto&thread=312&post=7997
So this seems to be a good opportunity to put together what we know.
As far as I can tell, all 1974 Monacos came with a black steering column,
www.bluesmobiles.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=details&action=display&thread=231
So we know that the movie blumo wasn't a stock tan 1974 monaco (civilian or police), as the column was tan:
It's possible that the steering columns came from a stock later-year Monaco with a tan color, but that seems unlikely.
For all year monacos, the CHP-style hornpad (if present) was black:
www.bluesmobiles.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=details&action=display&thread=170
yet that in the movie was always tan:
Also of interest is that I believe that all 74 monacos had a black lower metal dash and glovebox
www.bluesmobiles.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=details&action=display&thread=204
and rubber cover for the bolt to mount the driver lap belt receptacle / front middle passenger lap belt
www.bluesmobiles.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=gotopost&board=details&thread=201&post=1023
but I don't think we ever get a clear shot of the dash in the movie, and certainly not of the rear floorboard area.
So we know there was a bunch of tan/brown dying going on. And it looks like they even dyed the steering wheel, as some shots show a color blend like this:
I think the CHP-style door panels are not stock color (they were dyed), and that the seat vinyl is not stock color. It may not be dyed - maybe it was simply reupholstered.
Here are two shots of the blumo that show the seam moving around:
I point out here:
www.bluesmobiles.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=gotopost&board=police&thread=540&post=3114
that maybe it is just sloppy ma mopar tolerances, but I've never seen a stock monaco with that deep brown color vinyl.
Here's a pic with some stock, and SEM camel colored parts:
Look at part #3, a stock chp-style 1974 upper door panel (from Laguna Matt). Look how light it is compared to the panels in the movie.
So, if, we say that the movie guys dyed:
hornpad
steering wheel
steering column
upper door panels
It would make sense to me that might have just dyed everything: interior a-pillar covers, dash, seat. They probably had some non-tan civilian cars in there, and it would be easier to dye everything on every car, rather than not dye one piece on an original tan car and have it stick out like a sore thumb.
So what color to dye? We have a lot of good info from folks on what they did and how it turned out, and I'll attempt to collate that info here later. For now, I can describe the pic above of some parts that I have:
1) 1974 stock tan visors (from tan monaco)
2) 1974 stock brown kick panels (from tan monaco)
3) 1974 stock chp-style cop upper door panel (from laguna matt fury tan car)
4) 1974 : marin county - dyed SEM camel
5) 1976 stock dash (from my civilian monaco)
6) 1974 stock brown lower a-pillar sharp protectors (from tan monaco)
here's a link so you know what I'm referring to:
www.bluesmobiles.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=gotopost&board=blumohowto&thread=312&post=7997
7) 1974 seat belt retractor cover
7a) inside, showing stock tan color
7b) outside, showing SEM camel dye
8) 1976 stock lower metal dash and glovebox (from my civilian monaco)
9) clothes hangers in rear seat area. You can't tell from the pic, but these are both stock, unpainted, but one is about the same color as the inside of the seat belt cover (stock tan color), and the other is darker, about the same color as the SEM camel outside of the seat belt color.
Looking at these pictures, the SEM camel does appear unacceptably red, but the actual colors isn't so bad.
It seems to me that the stock colors in a tan car were either:
1) light tan (visors, visor mount, door lock pulls, clothes hooks, door panels)
2) dark brown (kick panels, padded dash, lower metal dash, glovebox)
Without a gradient. It was either very light, or very dark.
My thoughts on the color matching to a blumo:
1) I'm not going to dye the visor. It has a 1974-only label on it, and it seems best to just leave it alone.
2) I'm not going to dye the kick panels, as they seem hard-use items and would eventually get the dye worn through.
so for things that I can leave stock tan or brown, leave them.
And things that I need to dye, dye them SEM camel, which seems:
a) an in-between the stock tan and stock brown, so it will help tie the blumo together, somewhat like the rug in the Big Lebowski.
b) a close match to whats in the movie blumo
your friend in getting the color right,
arthur