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Post by sigmfsk on Aug 28, 2011 8:04:44 GMT -5
It looks like there were 5 different types of rear bumpers used on 74-77 non-station wagon c-body monacos: 74/75 w/ guards 3754503 74/75 w/o guards 3754502 76/77 w/guards, w/o corner guards 3835770 76/77 w/o guards, w/o corner guards 4000372 77 w/guards & corner guards 4046777 above, 74/75 w/ guards 3754503 above, 74/75 w/o guards 3754502 above, 77 w/guards & corner guards 4046777 That leaves: 76/77 w/guards, w/o corner guards 3835770 76/77 w/o guards, w/o corner guards 4000372 I don't know if a 77 ever came with those bumpers, but that's what's the parts catalog lists for the options for a 76. This will probably be the thing to check at a blumo convention, where we can park a 76 next to a 74/75 and see if we notice any differences. your friend in bumpering, arthur
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Post by sigmfsk on Sept 7, 2011 3:10:22 GMT -5
Here: www.bluesmobiles.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=gotopost&board=information&thread=57&post=1045I wrote: > If I remember correctly, California cars in general had to have the > bumperettes, so this [bluesmobile fall-a-part bumper without > bumperette holes] even shoots down the theory that all the cars > were from California (at least the bumpers). Here is the paperwork that shows that 1974 California Monacos had to come with bumperettes (the option pricing paperwork for the M85 bumperette option). Well, actually it doesn't say that. It says that bumperettes are required on all cars registered in California. It doesn't say that all cars sold in California will have the M85 option included (although that seems to be a reasonable interpretation). Notice that M85 bumperettes are included with A06 and A08 options. They look like common options, so it seems that many Monacos would come with bumperettes (which seems to be what we see - that non-bumperette bumpers are more rare). Here's what was included with A06 (easy order package) and A08 (luxury equipment package): your friend in swap meet paperwork, arthur
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Post by sigmfsk on Sept 20, 2012 19:21:29 GMT -5
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Post by blusmbl on Sept 20, 2012 20:58:00 GMT -5
Item number 1 seems to indicate you could get the bumper with tips and no side guards and with out tips or side guards or both the tips and guards installed. Crazy option picking madness
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Post by sigmfsk on Sept 21, 2012 3:11:38 GMT -5
Item number 1 seems to indicate you could get the bumper with tips and no side guards and with out tips or side guards or both the tips and guards installed. Crazy option picking madness Oh yeah! Thanks blusmbl! Now that I read the original post again, and understand what "guards" and "corner guards" I see I made the list: --------------- 74/75 w/ guards 3754503 74/75 w/o guards 3754502 76/77 w/guards, w/o corner guards 3835770 76/77 w/o guards, w/o corner guards 4000372 77 w/guards & corner guards 4046777 --------------- So there's the basic option: - blank or - bumperettes And that was available in 74/75 It was available in 76/77, but the bumpers were different. There's something different between 74/75 blank, and 76/77 blank and 74/75 bumperette, and 76/77 bumperette additionally, 77 only had the option bumperette and corner guard It's all starting to make sense. your friend in watching out for the guards, arthur
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Post by tk826 on Sept 21, 2012 3:52:24 GMT -5
w/ corner guards... w/o corner guards.
I noticed that tidbit of information as well and it immediately threw me into a panic.
If a '77 could come with a blank rear bumper how do we distinguish a '76 from a '77... by using sight alone?
How?.. How?.. How!
*(in person, you can always look at the date stamped on the taillight lens, but just using photos it now seems impossible)
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Post by sigmfsk on Sept 21, 2012 4:03:57 GMT -5
If a '77 could come with a blank rear bumper how do we distinguish a '76 from a '77... * (in person, you can always look at the date stamped on the taillight lens, but just using photos it now seems impossible) So we have: 1) fender tag 2) vin tag 3) vin's stamped into body which aren't really what we're looking for. We have dates molded into things: 4) taillight lens 5) steering wheel which aren't really what we're looking for. The only real difference between a 76 and 77 that I can think of is: If it has a "gasoline" sticker, it is a 76: and if it has a "fuel" silkscreen, it is either a 76 or 77: from bluesmobiles.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=details&action=display&thread=434And even that is based on some assumptions. Clearly, we need some other type of 76/77 checker.
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