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Post by 58hemifury on Mar 18, 2014 19:59:38 GMT -5
I'd really like to get the 2 door '74 that's on CL in MN but like all other '74 Monaco owners the guy never gets back to me or answers the phone. I could swap the nose, the 400, 8 3/4 rear and god knows what other parts and sell the body to a demo derby guy. I even have shippers that will pick it up at a discount on the way with the '77 if I can get both.
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Post by 58hemifury on Mar 18, 2014 20:14:56 GMT -5
While we're on the subject, when removing Royal Monaco lower trim should I expect to find holes or metal welded on rivets? It appears where the molding is missing on the woodgrain '74 fender that they have holes in them.
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Post by AZBlues on Mar 19, 2014 0:51:31 GMT -5
One thing I have learned in this game is that good things come to those who wait, and patience serves you well. As soon as you buy 1.5-2 cars, parts, maybe police stuff, etc, sure as hell the perfect car will come up in one piece with all the items that you want, and for a good price. I do, however, support the idea of putting '74 parts on a later Monaco, but if you do that, just wait until the right Royal comes along. That will probably be a real police car that already has the 440, 727, 9-1/4 rear, cop subframe, and the rest of the goodies. The hidden headlight cop cars don't go for nearly as much as the '74-'75s, and they do come up fairly regularly. Something like that and the '74 clip would get you there with the least hassle/expense.
-AZB
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Post by cynot on Mar 19, 2014 7:06:47 GMT -5
Looks like you've been making alot of phonecalls! Its good to see you have your front clip located, the price isn't too bad with shipping. Last year I spent hours on the phone, looking for a left fender, calling junkyards across the country and came up with nothing. I did find a guy from 'dry dock' that had 2 new NOS Royal Monaco fenders in Ohio. He wanted $900 for the pair and would not separate them. I had a hard time spending that much $ on brand new fenders just to have to cut them up to modify to fit my Monaco. But seeing how hard it is to track down nice sheet metal, maybe I should have done it...because I'm still looking for a left fender! The taillight trim IS separate from the lights, so you wont need to replace the lights on a Royal, just the trim.
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Post by countrybunker on Mar 19, 2014 15:24:27 GMT -5
I almost bought those fenders from that wagon last year, when I was looking for em. Was a little afraid of the dent as well.
If you come across any extra '74 front bumpers, please let me know.
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Post by 58hemifury on Mar 19, 2014 17:24:35 GMT -5
I almost bought those fenders from that wagon last year, when I was looking for em. Was a little afraid of the dent as well. If you come across any extra '74 front bumpers, please let me know. Yup that right one looks a little too rough for the price but it's what's out there. (One other with bondo and rust and another woodie that sounds better. This is the only left one I can find). I have found 2 front bumpers, one is a rechrome, no other parts and the other was checking on it and never got back to me. Once I piece this thing together, be it with buying a '74 complete or bits and pieces I'll post all of my sources for everyone and what parts they have. Adam
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Post by spanks79 on Mar 20, 2014 7:16:16 GMT -5
Those parts actually don't look too bad. The dents don't concern me but rust is a deal breaker. $1400 is a lot for those parts but unfortunatly this guy knows what he has and knows you can't get it anywhere else. Plus you still need a bumper. Just for reference, I paid $1500 for a complete car two years ago, the car needed a ton of work but the front end is solid. I felt that price was more than fair for a complete 74 although rough. Sitting here today, if I had a complete, solid conversion ready front end including bumper I'd probably ask $1800-$2000 for it.
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Post by 58hemifury on Mar 20, 2014 10:52:44 GMT -5
I'm looking into a whole car (just waiting on pics, it's a 2 door '74), will cost a little more but I will need tail lights, technically I will need a rear bumper, and a gas door plus I'm sure other things to make the'77 look legit other than the front end. Plus left over parts since I'm still doing my '75 Gran Fury police car.
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Post by 58hemifury on Mar 20, 2014 10:58:54 GMT -5
The real sad part is I knew of a yard not that long ago that had at least 5 or 6 '74-5 Monaco Police cars (and some Furys and 77-8 Police) all mostly complete from the same dept., the old guy died and the family crushed it all. The place was loaded with 30's on up stuff, including a '39 Lincoln V12 Zephre I was heart broken. I had just looked at a '77 Monaco police that was a rot box and it reminded me that they were up there but all I found was and empty lot and the son mowing the lawn at the father's house, I already knew the story before he told me.
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Post by 58hemifury on Mar 21, 2014 20:14:57 GMT -5
Are the Royal front bumpers the same as the '75 Monaco bumper with a different lower grille? In some pictures they look the same.
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Post by Lord Vadus on Mar 21, 2014 21:12:16 GMT -5
No, they're not. The royals have no turn signal housing in them, as it was relocated to the fenders.
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Post by 58hemifury on Mar 22, 2014 5:36:47 GMT -5
No, they're not. The royals have no turn signal housing in them, as it was relocated to the fenders. I know that but the pic here from EBAY shows the lights as part of the grille for a regular Monaco. So aside from that, is the bumper the same size and shape? Would a '74 sheet metal swap onto a '77 end up looking like a '75 with a '74 grille (and no parking lights in the bumper)?
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Post by 58hemifury on Mar 22, 2014 17:12:41 GMT -5
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Post by 58hemifury on Mar 22, 2014 19:18:25 GMT -5
So while waiting for the jerk off with the 2 door to get pics to me (since i was trying to combine shipping with both cars) I missed out on the 4 door, the guy sold it. So I think what I'll do is buy all of the nose parts I found for a '74 and just wait on a tan interior 4 door to pop up on CL again. God I'm pissed!
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Post by Lord Vadus on Mar 23, 2014 9:51:35 GMT -5
Pending on where in MN, I could drive there and act on your behalf.
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