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Post by Ghostbluesman (Ghostsoldier) on Mar 23, 2013 9:49:56 GMT -5
Glad you got it, Art. I went back and searched all my extensive piratical resources for any other versions of the movie, and all I could find was another 10.51gb version with NL subs (which I'm assuming is the same file, from a different seeder), and Spanish PAL version that comes in at 9.98 gigs. I wonder if tk's screen PC resolution has something to do with his capture resolution? Rob
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Post by sigmfsk on Mar 23, 2013 10:08:22 GMT -5
Many thanks, Ghost, my hands were trembling with excitement when I got it! I wonder if tk's screen PC resolution has something to do with his capture resolution? That's my guess, that somehow TK was viewing the movie, and did a screen-snapshot which provided a different resolution than the underlying movie. But rather than attempt to figure out how this could happen, I figured I'd just wait for TK and hear what process he followed, because maybe there really is more info in the dutch movie, and maybe the same more info is in the blu-ray, or maybe TK has a different movie. Or at least I'd learn what program he used that provided the "simulated" enhanced zoom-in resolution. It will be interesting to learn, whatever the situation.
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Post by tk826 on Mar 23, 2013 19:46:43 GMT -5
To capture the image, I hit the "Print Screen" button on the keyboard to copy what was on the screen to the clipboard, and enlarged it in PS... that's it.
VLC snap =1920 x 1040
It all seems to check out.
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Post by sigmfsk on Mar 24, 2013 3:14:09 GMT -5
To capture the image, I hit the "Print Screen" button on the keyboard to copy what was on the screen to the clipboard, and enlarged it in PS... that's it. TK, can you elaborate on how you enlarged it in photoshop? You provided this pic: from here: bluesmobiles.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=gotopost&board=bbprops&thread=1234&post=8722and I provided this pic: from here: bluesmobiles.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=gotopost&board=bbprops&thread=1234&post=8723and I generated my pic using the original blu-ray source, enlarged with PhotoShop CS3, using "bicubic smoother (best for enlargement)" And your pic looks better than mine. Can you detail what options you used or other ideas on why you think yours looks less pixilated than my enlargement? For example, this is an original resolution crop: What options would you select to enlarge it as pretty as the pic you provided? your friend in editing tools, arthur
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Post by tk826 on Mar 24, 2013 17:58:35 GMT -5
I'm using CS5... if it makes a difference.
Also using the bicubic smoother.
One thing that I do, when enlarging photos, is to do it in increments. Enlarge it a little bit... then do it again, a little more... and so on, until I get it to the size I want.
From what I've learned, when a photo is enlarged, and the pixels are spread apart, the program steals the information from the surrounding pixels to fill in the missing gaps. The theory is that if you go from a small size to a giant size, in one step, the gaps that are filled in are all using the same pixel info and it becomes muddled. If done in separate steps, the info is gradually altered, from pixel to pixel, and the transition becomes more defined.
If that is the case here, I'm not sure.
But either way, I just grabbed a screen capture of the same shot to see if doing it twice would bring the same results, or if it was some fluke like perhaps that specific frame of film was clearer than the others before and after it. But, I got the same result as the first photo I posted. Sharp and clear. In fact what I believe is writing in the lower right corner of the glass was even clearer then the first time around, I could almost make out letters.
If it's not due to CS5 or the increment method, I'm leaning toward the idea that this 10G file is better quality than the Blu-Ray release.
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Post by sigmfsk on Mar 25, 2013 2:11:50 GMT -5
Thanks TK. I think the repeated upsizing was a useful technique when upscaling without an algorithm (it was the algorithm) and doesn't offer a benefit when the bicubic smoother is used. > Other techniques involve repeatedly upsizing in ten-percent increments > until you reach your desired size. www.earthboundlight.com/phototips/resizing-resampling-photoshop.htmlIf I use a vlc snapshot and then enlarge it to 200% using bicubic smoother, I get the same good results as applied to an image from blu-ray video as from the dutch video. I found that the pixilated enlargement I had was due to the original jpg not being as good as that offered by the video. Meaning, when I extracted jpgs from the video, the extraction program didn't do as good a job as vlcsnap. above: dutch vlcsnap above: blu-ray vlcsnap above: blu-ray from my saved image from extraction program (Not all pics from exact frame in movie) Well, that's a bummer that all my extracted jpgs aren't as good as they could be, but it's great to know that there's a bit more info to be had than I thought there was. thanks, arthur
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Post by tk826 on Mar 25, 2013 2:42:14 GMT -5
I think you solved the mystery. What I'm taking away from this is that we all have the same file and that it is the Blu-Ray version. Nice reverse thinking. I guess the question was not why is the one photo more clear, but why is the other one blurry.
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Post by Ghostbluesman (Ghostsoldier) on Mar 25, 2013 9:11:08 GMT -5
But, all this research is awesome, because it can be used to clarify other details in the movie, especially car details. Nice work, fellas. So....what model GE toaster oven do I want to look for, again? ;D Rob
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Post by sigmfsk on Mar 25, 2013 15:40:01 GMT -5
So....what model GE toaster oven do I want to look for, again? If we could read the label, we could narrow it down. If we could see the left hand underside center screw position, we could narrow it down. But I don't think we can see any of those things. If we could see the power cord exit location, we could narrow it down. I think the "other" toaster that Elwood walks by does NOT have the lower exit location. but the toaster that Elwood uses, I can't make-out the exit location: so I think all we know is: GE T93 toaster, one of these models: 11t93 21t93 31t93 41t93 51t93 61t93 a2t93 With all black buttons/knobs/levers. With white labeling on the lower right corner of the glass, like this:
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Post by Ghostbluesman (Ghostsoldier) on Mar 25, 2013 15:45:58 GMT -5
Thanks, Art...those are enough clues for me. Rob
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Post by blusmbl on Aug 11, 2014 19:08:35 GMT -5
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Post by Ghostbluesman (Ghostsoldier) on Aug 12, 2014 13:43:58 GMT -5
That's too cool...I'm always on the lookout for one, too...I'm hoping to find one at a yard sale or thrift store, if I'm lucky!
Rob
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