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Post by sigmfsk on Nov 23, 2012 9:49:06 GMT -5
Here: www.bluesbrotherscentral.com/forum/topic/7547-illinois-state-police-car-movie-prop/#entry101647BBC member OrangewhipX3 wrote: Long time fan, first time poster… Quick story I’d like to share with you fans. I lived in Santa Barbara, CA between ’92-’95. One day while walking down State Street, I spotted in the front window of an antique store, a white ‘70s era Illinois State Police car measuring about 4 feet long. Next to it was a letter on Universal letterhead stating the miniature car was used as a special effects vehicle shot for the scene with John Candy’s car flying through the air just before it lands “in the truck.” Since I was a starving student at the time and with a then-hefty price tag of $500, I simply enjoyed the moment and walked on. Often I wonder where that car is today or if it was actually used in the film. Would have looked cool hanging from my garage rafters today. Ah, well… win some, lose many ------------------ I don't think we've heard anything else on that model. Unlike most "claimed original" stories, that story sounds quite reasonable and believable. The car#55 that lands in the truck is most certainly a full-size car. This car might be a model: although I tend to think it was also a full-size car. So why build a model of a car#55 that didn't make it into the movie? Planning ahead. We know Steve's reference model blumo had operating headlights and those features weren't used in the movie. > The electrical wire by the bumper can provide interior lighting and > headlights. Read more: www.bluesmobiles.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=rumors&action=display&thread=1081#ixzz2D3cbvgaU
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Post by legendaryacura8 on Nov 24, 2012 2:47:10 GMT -5
Arthur asks,
I know the paper supposedly said it was a model of car 55, but wasn't the scene, in which the Plymouth Hotel is demolished, all models? If so the ISP out front in front of Mercers car would have been a model... And now that I look at that shot, it looks like that particular ISP is supposed to have a vinyl roof!
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Post by sigmfsk on Nov 24, 2012 5:00:27 GMT -5
...wasn't the scene, in which the Plymouth Hotel is demolished, all models? If so the ISP out front in front of Mercers car would have been a model... And now that I look at that shot, it looks like that particular ISP is supposed to have a vinyl roof! Ahhhh, yes! Great thinking, Legendary. I see here: www.bluesbrotherscentral.com/locations/plymouth-hotel/Elwood's Hotel Real Location: Plymouth Hotel Address: 16 S Van Buren, Chicago IL Status: Location no longer exists Description: From Dave Newbart (Chicago Sun-Times): They negotiated with the owners of the closed Wabash Hotel at 27 E. Harrison to implode the building and film it. They contracted the Loizeaux family -- a world famous demolition company -- and were going to pay them $30,000 to do the job. Set decorators had even painted bricks on the Wabash facade to resemble the Plymouth. But there were concerns about an adjoining wall with a neighboring building and fears underground gas lines might leak, said first assistant director David Sosna. The explosion was canceled, and they used a model instead. -------------------- Here's a good shot of the ISP pulling up: the real cars: and the models. This is the first frame of the explosion sequence: The model is actually quite nice. The biggest goof I can see isn't with the hotel model, but with the ISP, which lost its roof lights and markings, and weird colored top. Here are some zoom-ins of the three pics above: Here's a pic of the real ISP when it first pulls into frame: It looks like its car #76. And we know for sure that this model existed. And it makes me think even more that this: is a real car. Why make one ISP model #76 with no roof lights and no wording on the side, and then make another ISP model with all those details? My guess is that the model in the store (that the guy was referring to in the original post) was the #76 Elwood hotel model (with no trunk number markings) and that someone just presumed it was the model for car #55. I think it best to retitle this thread Car #76 model. Don't we have a source somewhere saying that there were 5 models made for the movie? And we know of four: - Steve Beshekas blumo - Jim Belushi blumo - ISP #76 - Burton Mercer's brown car (what kind of car is that)? your friend in working through old mysteries, arthur
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Post by sigmfsk on Nov 24, 2012 5:20:22 GMT -5
Don't we have a source somewhere saying that there were 5 models made for the movie? I think our only source is this quote from the Steve Beshekas blumo model ad: > To the best of my knowledge there were 5 models made (including > the ones that did not make it into the movie). I think one of the few > that was NOT used in the movie is in the possession of Jim Belushi's > EX. However, I am quite sure that this is the LAST one still in tact > that was actually USED IN THE MOVIE!!!! from www.bluesbrotherscentral.com/forum/topic/7455-selling-1974-original-movie-bluesmobile-model-illinois/#entry100792from www.bluesmobiles.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=rumors&action=display&thread=1081I mention in the Steve blumo model thread that I don't think his was actually used in the movie, but it's not really Steve's fault for advertising that - he did have a letter of authenticity from Dan Aykroyd. And I mention in the Jim Belushi model thread that I don't know how his could be owned by his EX, based on the timing of that German youtube video showing it at his television set. But it still could be a good source for the number of 5 original models.
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Post by tk826 on Nov 24, 2012 6:26:51 GMT -5
The hotel explosion was done with two dimensional cardboard cut-outs of the cars, in front of a scale model building.
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Post by sigmfsk on Nov 24, 2012 10:11:01 GMT -5
The hotel explosion was done with two dimensional cardboard cut-outs of the cars, in front of a scale model building. Hi TK: I think you're right. Did you know this from previous analysis of the film, or analysis of the pics above, or from some other source? When I look through the shots, the debris disappears when it hits the ground in front of the ISP. Can you help explain what's going on? In the last shot shown here, a large segment of bricks hits the rear of the ISP and the way it hits and the shadows involved also indicate a 2-d cardboard cutout. your friend in miniature analysis, arthur
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Post by tk826 on Nov 24, 2012 14:45:59 GMT -5
The scale model explosion was filmed in a studio/ stage and then composited onto the filmed background of the real location. When watching the scene, as you mentioned, you will see that the facade of the building, (bricks and debris) fall through the sidewalk, without slowing down and without damaging the sidewalk, as if the ground was a "ghost".
This is because the center section of film that was removed/covered was smaller than the full area of the filmed explosion.
It's like watching something crumble outside of a window. As the pieces fall below the window sill they will disappear, without slowing down, and without damaging the window sill.
Flatten that into 2D and you have the hotel explosion.
* In the last photo above, the cars, the entire el-track structure, the lamp post and the far side of the street (where the cars are) is all cardboard (foamcore board actually). The buildings on the far left and right, and the foreground of the street are real.
So, whenever a piece of the scale building falls into an area that is real, it will disappear.
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Post by sigmfsk on Nov 24, 2012 15:52:18 GMT -5
Thanks for the detailed explanation, TK. * In the last photo above, the cars, the entire el-track structure, the lamp post and the far side of the street (where the cars are) is all cardboard (foamcore board actually). The buildings on the far left and right, and the foreground of the street are real. I think the buildings on the right are part of the model The part in blue is solid black in the explosion scene. The part in green looks "flat" and non-lifelike. The part in pink is more vividly yellow. But I get what you're saying. So, whenever a piece of the scale building falls into an area that is real, it will disappear. Great description, thanks. They really did a nice job with that model. I never guessed it when watching the movie. Car #76, we barely knew ye. I'll put the thread back to Car #55.
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Post by flcl64 on Nov 25, 2012 17:15:41 GMT -5
I'm watching the movie right now on Blu ray on a big widescreen HD tv. When the buildings blow up the cars seem to wobble a bit, but the trunk doesn't, or vice versa, i cant quite tell, but it does look weird.
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