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Post by sigmfsk on Oct 2, 2011 4:42:56 GMT -5
From what I can tell, civilian cars always had this left forward position (my 76 parts car):  and CHP cars always had this right rear position (Ford Jockey's ex-CHP): my Marin County has that right-rear position: In this way it is like CHP, but in many ways my car is not like CHP (no A/C, no Leece Neville, narrow angle air cleaner, factory installed spotlights). So I'm not sure exactly if/how my car was connected to a CHP order. It doesn't look like all cop cars had the rear-right position. This page: copcardotcom.fotki.com/photographs_of_greg/chicago-police-vehicles/chicago-police-vehi/cpd-1974-dodge-trunk.htmlhas this pic: Of the trunk of a Chicago Police Department monaco, which looks like it didn't have the rear-right position, so it probably had the standard position. I don't know what New York had. These pics are from various posts in my Marin County thread on BBC. |
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Post by tk826 on Oct 2, 2011 14:06:52 GMT -5
Going back to the CHiPs photos, I see this: Mounted directly in the center.  The car looks genuine. Horizontal door panels, non-painted bumper spacers... etc. |
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Post by sigmfsk on Oct 2, 2011 15:36:02 GMT -5
Going back to the CHiPs photos, I see this: Mounted directly in the center... The car looks genuine. Horizontal door panels, non-painted bumper spacers... etc. I wonder if it was mounted. I hope that it was just resting in the middle; it sure seems a strange spot for a mount. TK, what is "non-painted bumper spacers"? It sounds like something that indicates a true cop-car, but I don't get the reference. thanks, arthur |
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Post by tk826 on Oct 2, 2011 20:07:02 GMT -5
It might just be resting there. I don't see a jack stand on top.
The "spacers" I'm referring to are the vinyl insert/ fillers, between the bumper and the lower rear quarters.
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Post by sigmfsk on Oct 3, 2011 17:35:45 GMT -5
The "spacers" I'm referring to are the vinyl insert/ fillers, between the bumper and the lower rear quarters. Oh, I haven't been paying attention to them. Are you saying that all CHP 74/75 Monacos have unpainted fillers? I see the Arco 75 ex-CHP is like this: but what about 74? Here's a pic of Ford Jockeys 74 ex-CHP: from diecastpolicecar.poliskarr.org/index.php?topic=4912.0Should those fillers be unpainted/grey? Or are you saying only 75 CHP cars should be unpainted? I guess, what turned you on to thinking that an unpainted filler was police-like? your friend in bumper filler trivia, arthur |
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Post by tk826 on Oct 3, 2011 19:20:45 GMT -5
I'm 90% positive that all 74-77 C-Body Monaco fleet/police vehicles came standard with unpainted fillers.
From what I understand, it was actually a special order to have them painted with the body color.
* I also believe that it was impossible to have a civilian car with the fillers unpainted.
Also remember that fords car had a previous life as a Bluesmobile, so it has been repainted at least once or twice.
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Post by sigmfsk on Oct 4, 2011 5:54:01 GMT -5
I'm 90% positive that all 74-77 C-Body Monaco fleet/police vehicles came standard with unpainted fillers. From what I understand, it was actually a special order to have them painted with the body color. * I also believe that it was impossible to have a civilian car with the fillers unpainted. Ahhh, very interesting. I have the 74 police brochure from Huey's post on BBC. That brochure is rather sparse. But from here: bluesmobiles.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=gotopost&board=cars&thread=261&post=1770it sounds like the 75 brochure is more significant: > It can be found under Dodge fleet equipment...if you have a 75 > Monaco police brochure its on the top of page 11 special ordered > items. I found a '76 brochure on-line and ordered it. I can't find a 75 or 77 brochure. I posted every brochure I have on BBC. Sometime after I get this 76 brochure I'll work on creating a subforum here for brochures where we can post everything in an easy to find manner. Also remember that fords car had a previous life as a Bluesmobile, so it has been repainted at least once or twice. True, I just don't recall any 74 Monaco with an unpainted filler. Marin County was green. King of the hill was brown. So those could be all the special ordered paint matching. Maybe it was down to only black & white units. Edit: I had listed "Buffalo fire department was white", but I just remembered that it was painted white over the original red, so we really don't know how its fillers looked, although I'm guessing they were red. Here are a few CHP restorations from www.bluesbrotherscentral.com/forum/topic/5392-black-and-white-paint-startstop/page__view__findpost__p__110577and they all have black fillers. Maybe they're all black, because its straightforward to refurbish the piece and paint it black, and it's more difficult to find/recreate an unpainted piece. But if a 74 CHP Monaco originally had unpainted fillers, you'd think that at least one replica/restoration would have it. We need a pic of an unmodified CHP. Ghostbluesman's 75 looks unpainted, just like the Arco 75: So your theory seems valid (74-77), but we just don't have a lot of data right now. I'll be keeping my eyes open, thanks! arthur |
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Post by tk826 on Oct 4, 2011 13:15:43 GMT -5
Here is some of what I have (in no particular order): All original photographs (No replicas)  * At the same time, I could pull up just as many with the fillers painted. But again, I am under the belief that they were ordered that way. . |
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