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Post by Lord Vadus on Oct 6, 2011 18:33:34 GMT -5
Well, she's finally being prepped for painting. here's an update of the front end of the car.
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Post by Lord Vadus on Oct 6, 2011 18:34:59 GMT -5
And here's a side view with the trim and vinyl top removed.
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Post by sigmfsk on Oct 6, 2011 19:58:15 GMT -5
Well, she's finally being prepped for painting. here's an update of the front end of the car. Bumperette's removed, cool. Are you going to leave the fender-mounted turn signals on your blumo? I know a lot of people love them. It's cool seeing turn signals so far out in front of the car. your friend in enjoying the progress, arthur
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Post by Lord Vadus on Oct 6, 2011 20:29:42 GMT -5
Bumperette's removed, cool. Are you going to leave the fender-mounted turn signals on your blumo? I know a lot of people love them. It's cool seeing turn signals so far out in front of the car. your friend in enjoying the progress, arthur The bumperettes came off amazingly easy on this car; both front and rear. I may have to pull them from my other car, too. The only odd thing is that one bolt was a different size than the others. I think it must've been factory, as everything on that car is unchanged. I'm going to leave the turn signal indicators. Since I've grown used to them on my other Monaco and I'm impressed at how they work; they're actually individual bulbs like the ones in the gauge cluster that are wired into the directional system. By comparison, my Cadillacs have fiber-optic lines that run to 3 indicators; directionals, headlights, and high beams. My next update will feature the painted engine bay of the car. It's being done in stages; engine bay painted, 440 installed, black body paint, tan interior dying, white paint and decals, interior replaced, push-bars welded to frame, and, lastly, the underbody coated. By the time that the car is done, it'll never look like it was green.
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Post by Lord Vadus on Oct 13, 2011 18:14:16 GMT -5
Another pic of the 440 as it progresses. This is prior to tear-down, as now it's been stripped to the block itself and will be hot-tanked tomorrow, as well as the first stage of the painting done; expect an update in the afternoon. The photo shows the headers that were included with my Brougham; see this thread: www.bluesbrotherscentral.com/forum/topic/9071-sold-usa-1974-monaco-hardtop-virginia/I was annoyed that they didn't fit the 360 in my Brougham and they'd been sitting since. Today I decided to try to test-fit them to the 440 on a whim and, amazingly, they bolt up. They were made for the 440. Now I'm going to have a set of 1970s ceramic-coated Hooker Competition headers for my 440 that came with my Brougham. Those two cars really are becoming sisters.
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Post by sigmfsk on Oct 13, 2011 18:47:10 GMT -5
... set of 1970s ceramic-coated Hooker Competition headers for my 440... Hi LV: That's cool! I think you have a set of Hooker Super Comp 5113 headers. Here are some pics of 5113's: from www.bluesbrotherscentral.com/forum/topic/2053-c-body-headers/page__hl__headers__fromsearch__1What's interesting is that when we were talking about them in May 2010, Hooker listed the set for Mopar big block - Monaco through 1973. They had nothing for 1974+ I found this link: www.moparchat.com/forums/showpost.php?p=163665&postcount=19where a guy used them on his 77 c-body Fury: > These fit into my C-body 77 Plymouth GranFury 400 c.i. automatic. > Everything fit with the minor exception of the transmission > selector torque shaft, between the transmission and the frame, > had to be rotated up, 180 degrees, to clear the header collector. > The rest was a trouble free fit. but now I see that these 5113 headers are advertised for > 1968-77 Monaco/Polara/Fury I-III; 1975 Gran Fury, Wagons (C > Bodies) 383-440 www.jegs.com/i/Hooker/520/5113/10002/-1?CT=999I don't know if they've tweaked them a bit for a better fit. My guess is that they merely updated their documentation to reflect that they'll also fit a 74-77 c-body. So please keep us posted on how they fit and look! thanks, arthur
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Post by Lord Vadus on Oct 14, 2011 0:05:38 GMT -5
Those headers are SLIGHTLY different from mine. Mine have more curved pipes; most notable on the passenger side where my 3rd pipe from the front wraps back, whereas theirs comes off in a more straight manner. That's part of the difference between the Competition and the Super Competition; the Super Comp are straighter to allow for easier exhaust flow and a marginal increase in performance. They're also not coated; though, you can't see the difference in the pictures of mine. If you're familiar with the powdercoating process, it's very similar, except that ceramic coating is meant to withstand constant exposure to very high temperatures and prevent color distortion as a result of said heat. Theirs would be polished or smoothed on the inside, whereas, mine are coated. There's also a moderate difference in weight between theirs and mine; with theirs being lighter.
I prefer mine, since I'm not concerned with the slight weight difference, especially when switching from stock, and because I don't want them to ever rust and corrode like the pictured ones. This suits my build goal perfectly and were what I already, conveniently, had.
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Post by sigmfsk on Oct 14, 2011 4:19:50 GMT -5
Those headers are SLIGHTLY different from mine...That's part of the difference between the Competition and the Super Competition...were what I already, conveniently, had. Hi LV: Can you say exactly what model headers you have? Is there a number stamped on the side as with that pic of the "5113" I showed above? The only headers production headers of which I was aware that at least somewhat fit a 74-77 c-body were the Hooker Super Comp 5113. I think you are saying that you have a set of Hooker Competition headers (not super comp), but what model? I don't see any models that are listed for any c-bodies, let alone a 74-77. www.holley.com/types/Comp%20Headers.aspI'm excited to see learn what they are and see how they will fit. thanks, arthur
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Post by Lord Vadus on Oct 14, 2011 17:24:37 GMT -5
Here's a picture of my newly-painted engine bay after the initial coat. There will be a few more before its complete and the motor is ready to go back in the car. The interior is also fairly disassembled and awaiting being sprayed tan, but that won't happen until the car is running again. For the headers, Arthur, mine are are stamped "50113" and I couldn't find any information about that numbering online that didn't come back as "5113" instead. I suspect that they were made for a Charger or Challenger, back in the day, and were just re-used in a slightly different form for the C-body platform at a later date.
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Post by sigmfsk on Oct 15, 2011 4:15:40 GMT -5
For the headers, Arthur, mine are are stamped "50113" and I couldn't find any information about that numbering online that didn't come back as "5113" instead. I suspect that they were made for a Charger or Challenger, back in the day, and were just re-used in a slightly different form for the C-body platform at a later date. Ok, thanks. I think I'm missing why it should be expected that these will fit a 74-77 c-body, other than they were sold along with a 74-77 c-body. Maybe the seller said that he had them installed in one. If they fit, and if we can figure out what a 50113 was advertised for use by Hooker, then we might drastically expand our header selection range. Let's say, for example that a 50113 was sold for: a 440 in one of: 1967-1976 "A"-bodies: 1962-1974 "B"-bodies 1970-1974 "E"-bodies Then that might mean that a header designed for a 440 for one of those cars will fit a 74-77 c-body. So that might mean that I could use a header designed for one of those cars: www.ttiexhaust.com/Header-TTI440-218/HeaderDetails.htmon my car. At least it would give me a greater degree of confidence that if it needed to change, it wouldn't need to be modified by much. I excitedly await future updates. Engine bay is looking nice! thanks, arthur
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Post by Lord Vadus on Nov 22, 2011 11:54:40 GMT -5
The motor's almost done; a few more parts, some minor cleaning, and then its final assembly. If you'll notice, she now has a performance distributor and, though you can't see it, a hopped up police cam. The most obvious piece is the new air intake. My priority with this car has always been the substance; the mechanicals, body, etc. so the appearance portions of the build have been severely neglected this season. Next year, though, she should be done in time for summer.
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Post by sigmfsk on Nov 22, 2011 16:08:03 GMT -5
Nice! What is the intake you selected?
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Post by Lord Vadus on Nov 22, 2011 17:12:21 GMT -5
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Post by sigmfsk on Nov 22, 2011 18:24:13 GMT -5
Two thumbs up! Looking forward to more exciting updates, thanks, arthur
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Post by Lord Vadus on Nov 22, 2011 18:58:19 GMT -5
Two thumbs up! Looking forward to more exciting updates, thanks, arthur No problem. I want my car to be able to preform and, with the way I've got the motor set up, it'll be faster than a cop car was in '74. For my checklist it goes: [X] Cop Motor; a 440 Cubic Inch Plant (Mine's built better, so I'm calling it the same for the sake of the build) [X] Cop Tires (Technically high-performance racing tires, but they're on cop wheels) [ ] Cop Suspension [ ] Cop Shocks The last two will come after I go through the steering, suspension, and brakes before I deem the project road-worthy.
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